Posted on 12/19/2014 11:01:37 AM PST by C19fan
This isn’t one of those articles where I ask a question in the headline and provide the answer in the text. Because the truth is, I don’t know how someone accused of sexual assault is supposed to prove they obtained consent under the new “yes means yes” policies.
And it looks like no one else knows either.
I reached out to the lead sponsor of the California affirmative consent law, state Sen. Kevin de Leon, because when I tried asking other sponsors of the bill, they directed me to him. His office provided a lengthy description of the bill that did not actually answer my question. My follow-up thus far has gone unanswered (although they are three hours behind).
Then I tried contacting California Gov. Jerry Brown, who signed the "yes means yes" law. A representative from his office said they would find someone to answer my question. I never heard back.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
What? Question of law? Well, we just write and sign this stuff, we don’t figure out what it actually means in real life. If it is really bad, some court will throw it out and you’ll forget that we put this stupid law in place in the first place, and if it is really good, we’ll have the feminists voting for us all the time (not that they’d ever vote for a conservative...)
I am an old married guy...but this kind of insanity makes me feel sorry for young men today. They are marked targets.
They don’t have to. The prosecution needs to prove that the “victim” didn’t say yes.
You’d need to have a spotter the whole time.
Guilty until proven innocent is the new model. Woe to the man who scorns a woman. She can now have him arrested and charged with rape and there’s not a damn thing he can do about it. Feminists have always wanted superiority. And now, with this “yes means yes” law, they have subjugated men and have dominance over them. A pox on Sacramento.
This law is primed to be struck down as void for vagueness.
I can’t help the author try to find the answer to the question of how exactly “yes means yes”, but I can offer this:
Liberal means Stupid
Every time. Every single time. With zero(0) exceptions.
My guess is its so ambiguous no one will ever be convicted. However, they’ll have their reputations ruined and possibly become paupers trying to defend themselves. Essentially, the law is a punishment in itself by the way its enforced. Liberals like it that way. No hard evidence is needed to punish the person theyre upset with....its all about feelings.
Another take: If you are a white male, you are guilty even if you can come up with evidence short of absolute proof. If you are any other category, there will be a slow careful investigation that looks for any mitigating circumstance and provides allowances for being a member of a protected class.
Having some trouble finding really accurate stats, but here’s what I’ve been able to find.
Very roughly 10% of all rape accusations result in a conviction. Very roughly 10% are proven to be false, usually by an unshakeable alibi.
So about 80% of all rape accusations are left in legal limbo, with neither the truth or the falsity of the accusation proven.
I would assume the percentage is somewhat higher for date rape, as it is generally assumed in the case of stranger rape that there’s indisputable evidence a crime was actually committed. With date rape even that is questioned.
This new law affects only students. As I understand it, it has no criminal implications at all.
There’s no way to establish your innocence. It’s designed to make all men a prey to women on a whim.
Even if you videotaped the entire encounter, documenting the consent at every step, all the woman has to do is say you did something without her consent after the tape was off. Men, either get out of California, or stay far away from women, is my advice.
Neo-Victorianism imposed at the end of the barrel of a gun.
Body cam!
If you’re accused, and male, you’re wrong. That’s what the feminazis had in mind when they got these rules passed.
Exactly. Nothing like a signed contract. Doesn’t do much for spontaneity, though.
Sign it or I’ll break your arm.
The Labour Party in New Zealand has promised if it comes back into power it will establish guilty until proven innocent in cases of sexual assault overturning centuries of Common Law tradition and practice.
It a women prerogative to chang her mind... even after the fact... now you get to go to prison for that
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