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Florida Leaves New York Behind in Its Rear-View Mirror
National Review ^ | 12/26/2014 | John Fund

Posted on 12/26/2014 6:33:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
"He finally got a job doing bankruptcy law."

Ouch! Still, that's better than handling collections.

"Calif. has at least good weather."

Indeed it does. Lived all over West LA/Santa Monica/MDR 80s and 90s, and it's a fantastic place to be young and stupid. However, San Diego in the late 70's was absolute heaven.

21 posted on 12/26/2014 7:55:00 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Yes, I love California, but, with all the problems, it's just not worth it.

I'm mighty glad I left.

22 posted on 12/26/2014 7:59:43 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: arkfreepdom
Up state New York is gorgeous...

Yes it is but the eight months of winter is a drawback too.

23 posted on 12/26/2014 8:01:29 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: SunkenCiv

NY has plenty of illegals; the rustbelt towns along the Hudson River are packed with them.

Florida just has more because it is a shorter flight/swim.


24 posted on 12/26/2014 8:36:41 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: arkfreepdom

“Up state New York is gorgeous...”

For about four months of each year.


25 posted on 12/26/2014 8:42:45 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Dr. Sivana

I think as technology enables more decentralization and more ease at operating business and living conveniently almost any where that we will see even greater shifts. You are right about natural inertia and also “The big apple” has a certain appeal to it much like Hollywood on the West Coast and Chicago in Illinois but the reality is that it is getting extremely expensive to live in and near those places and the local and state governments are driving those costs up and as the population of these states shift out they will eventually reach a critical point where they will go the way of Detroit. Sadly people don’t learn. They almost always kill the golden goose.


26 posted on 12/26/2014 8:42:59 AM PST by Maelstorm (Behold,a virgin shall be with child,& shall bring forth a son,& they shall call his name Emmanuel)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, what will happen when the sea rises and Florida sinks? Liberals can’t swim, or fish!


27 posted on 12/26/2014 8:49:21 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Ann Archy

They don’t, they moved to south Florida.


28 posted on 12/26/2014 8:53:45 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Rummyfan

Average Weather For Buffalo, New York, USA

Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 18°F to 80°F and is rarely below 3°F or above 87°F.

29 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Savage Beast

RE: Yes, I love California, but, with all the problems, it’s just not worth it.

I’m mighty glad I left.

___________________________

So, where did you move to, and was it worth it?


30 posted on 12/26/2014 8:57:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

All those New York Yankees moving to Florida are lowering the collective I.Q. in both states.


31 posted on 12/26/2014 8:58:22 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: SeekAndFind

NY leads in every category for great statist economies. What’s really good is the highest taxes in the union.


32 posted on 12/26/2014 9:00:32 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: ozdragon

“Cuomo’s blocking fracking is just the latest of many bad decisions over the last 50 years.”

I can remember 20 years ago or more there was an electronic sign visible to people exiting the SF/Oakland Bay Bridge (excuse me, It’s been renamed the Willie Brown Bridge) into San Francisco that showed the shifting population numbers between NY and CA. That sign chronicled CA’s downfall. I just hope that now that Colorado has legalized MJ, that our NY trash moves there. Maybe Pelosi will decide to “retire” to Colorado! Oh, but that won’t help because she’s from Baltimore. New England has $hit on the whole rest of the country!


33 posted on 12/26/2014 9:00:58 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's a common sense idea for nephew. Look at the growth states, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida. That's where the jobs are or will be. He's not the brightest bulb in the store is he?
34 posted on 12/26/2014 9:01:12 AM PST by Kozy
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To: Dr. Sivana
Family responsibilities explains some of it. Inertia explains a bit more. This is an ongoing shift that has been going on for decades and will go on for more decades.

Migration south began with the invention of air conditioning. Democrap economic policies certainly contribute to the pattern. There's no reason to expect a change any time soon.

35 posted on 12/26/2014 9:03:56 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kozy

“Look at the growth states, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida.”

All are fine if you don’t mind having your glasses frost up like a beer bottle every time you venture out of your air conditioned “environment.” And you like tornadoes and hurricanes on occasion just to trash everything you own!


36 posted on 12/26/2014 9:05:11 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Living under a bridge in CA is better than prospering in a humid climate, I take it? Unlike a lot of people here on FR I actually like CA but detest what it’s become politically. I’ll never understand the people who put up with an awful standard of living just for the climate, though. Beach bum is OK for a semester off of college. It’s not OK for adults. AZ is dry, NV is dry, ID is fairly low humidity. Go there instead. He can sit on his butt unemployed and unable to do anything but look at the nice weather, or go make something of his life and come back to visit, able to go to the nice places at Big Sur or what have you. It’s just irrational to wither on the vine because of pretty weather.


37 posted on 12/26/2014 9:13:02 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Pontiac

I know people who have visited and considered moving to CA. After researching the regulatory and costs associated with CA they decided not to.


38 posted on 12/26/2014 9:21:57 AM PST by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind
I recently moved to the NYC metro area (southern CT) but also lived in California for a few years and spent significant time in Florida as well.

People make too much about the weather in NYC. It's really quite moderate. When it gets cold, you throw on a jacket and when it really gets cold, you have hats and mittens. What's the big deal?

Spring, summer and fall are for the most part spectacular in these parts and you rarely get the "blast furnace" heat that is so common in the South and out West.

Personally, I find it more difficult to be comfortable outdoors when it is 90 degrees than when it is 20 degrees. But even sub-20 degree days are rare in NYC metro.

In fact today, Dec 26, I was out walking the dog and it's in the mid-40s. I only needed a light jacket and the fresh air was very invigorating. When it gets colder at night, I light up the fireplace or wood-burning stove and it gets quite toasty.

It's also a misnomer that NYC is a huge ghetto. I live about 45 minutes from Manhattan and I'm surrounded by acres of woods and my Southern CT community has a crime rate close to zero. (You will get the same in many communities on Long Island and in the better suburbs of New Jersey).

Even in NYC proper, I feel safer in the boroughs like Queens and Brooklyn than I do in the not-so-nice places around Los Angeles and Miami. As for Manhattan itself, it's pretty much the safest place on the planet (thank you NYPD!)

Even NYC traffic is overrated. I find the traffic jams much worse in SoCal and metro Florida. Also, NYC has the best mass transportation system in the country, and it's safe too, and practically free of the graffiti you see on all those TV shows and movies (thank you Rudy!).

As for the politics, it's not quite as liberal as you might think. Many communities in my country (Fairfield) go Republican. Unfortunately, we are outnumbered by the immigrants and welfare folk in the inner cities who don't know any better. Also, we have a very large Jewish population here, and for reasons that cannot be easily explained, they vote overwhelmingly for big-government liberals (who do not have their best interests in mind when it comes to Israel and national security).

That all said, I don't let myself get affected by liberal politics. I don't need to move to Texas to feel safe (as a conservative).

As a conservative, I just work harder to overcome the onerous taxes that are imposed upon me and I come out ahead - much to the chagrin of those who would keep me oppressed.

I thrived up in Boston over the past 20 years, despite their liberal politics, and now I shall thrive in the Big Apple as well.

As I stated before, I lived in California and also Florida in the past but those places are way too congested and overcrowded for me. Also, the constant warm weather gets old after a while. I like the distinct differences between the four seasons: The balmy breezes of Spring as everything explodes into life; the lazy days of Summer with the backyard barbecues and days at the beach; the crisp and refreshing days of autumn, with all the colors; and finally, the cold, dark days of winter, where I spend many nights sitting by the crackling fireplace, watching it snow outside with a mug of hot coffee (sometimes spiked with brandy) in my hands.

39 posted on 12/26/2014 9:41:36 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

“James Johnson, a business professor at the University of North Carolina, told the AP that Florida’s powerful economic engine is driving its growth: “I think it’s going to be for the 21st century what California or New York was for the 20th century.”

And what exactly was “that”. LOL


40 posted on 12/26/2014 9:48:02 AM PST by headstamp 2
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