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Sharyl Attkisson: Docs indicate ATF was using Fast and Furious to justify new gun regs
americanthinker.com ^ | Dec 26, 2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 12/27/2014 11:23:57 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

Just as Second Amendment civil rights activists feared, federal government bureaucrats were supplying illegal firearms to Mexican drug cartels in the expectation that it would led to pressure for more regulation. Analyzing a 60 page document release in response to a FOIA action by Judicial Watch Attkisson writes:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; attkisson; banglist; brianterry; cia; dea; dhs; doj; fast; fastandfurious; fbi; furious; gungrabbers; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; hsi; jaimezapata; judicialwatch; jw; obama; projectgunrunner; terry; zapata
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Judicial Watch is doing all the heavy lifting these days.

I'm sending them money.

61 posted on 12/27/2014 2:18:40 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: Zathras

Got it.


62 posted on 12/27/2014 2:50:02 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Zathras

Bush admin allowed the purchases but was adamant about stopping transport before reaching the border.
Obama admin made a point of losing track of the guns precisely to let them cross the border, to see what fatal crime scenes they ended up at.
HUGE difference.


63 posted on 12/27/2014 2:55:57 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"Docs indicate ATF was using Fast and Furious to justify new gun regs"

In other words F&F was used in an attempt to give aid and comfort to the enemy. What did the top 20 ATF officials know and when did they know it? Let them join Holder in being indicted, tried, and convicted for treason against the United States of America.

64 posted on 12/27/2014 3:23:20 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That the whole purpose for ‘Fast and Furious’ was to create a basis for drastic new regulations is a no-brainer. It failed part way through when a border agent was killed and the scheme was disclosed.


65 posted on 12/27/2014 4:35:54 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Her story is amazing. I visit her website regularly and can't believe how this is staying so quiet. Maybe when congress resumes someone will dig deeply into this.

With every new day, more comes out about her superb work and the way she was targeted for it.

66 posted on 12/27/2014 5:11:25 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: saleman

The research has all been done to the Nth degree. It’s all available, a few searches will open it on your screen.


67 posted on 12/27/2014 6:46:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Baynative
There is more dynamite in every chapter of Stonewalled than between the covers of the entire All the President's Men. But this time, Woodward and Bernstein are integral parts of the cover-up team.


68 posted on 12/27/2014 6:49:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KoRn
The ATF should be defunded and shut down! Give whatever legitimate functions it might have had to the FBI.

The ATF was only one of the participants in the Fast & Furious caper. Aside from the ATF, the FBI, the DEA, the Border Patrol, the U.S. Attorney's office in Phoenix and the State Department were all involved.

The involvement of so many different federal agencies and different departments is prima facie evidence that the rot extends straight into the Attorney General's and the President's offices.

Accordingly, don't limit your disdain to the ATF. Half the damn government was involved in a conspiracy to deny us our 2nd Amendment rights.

69 posted on 12/27/2014 7:07:51 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Travis McGee

I understand that. I also understand that “you suck” is not a good response when someone say “Bush did it too!”

I do thank ya’ll for all the links. I’m not smart enough to remember all that.


70 posted on 12/27/2014 8:11:12 PM PST by saleman (?)
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To: Travis McGee
"But this time, Woodward and Bernstein are integral parts of the cover-up team."

Isn't it ironic that they made their chops on investigative reporting on one block buster story, and then rested on their laurels for 4 decades and spent their efforts covering for democrats and doing no more news, yet people look at them as stars?

71 posted on 12/27/2014 8:58:47 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: DesertRhino

THE RIVER OF GUNS

I remember the MSM lies too. Like good little evil sheep they all pushed the narrative.


72 posted on 12/27/2014 9:00:04 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: Zathras

The Bush family wants the new world order badly. Part of that is disarming the world (except the police, militaries and the elite.) They have to actually get rid of a lot of the constitution and the borders between Canada and Mexico.

Hate to say it but they are trying to introduce Sharia law into the US for Muslims as they have in Britain to mess up our constitutional legal system. A lot of our freedoms - like the first amendment - don’t fit their new ideal of a united world.

They will have the biggest fight over ending the second amendment and they can’t get rid of the constitution and put us under the rule of the new world order if we are armed.


73 posted on 12/27/2014 10:34:30 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: KoRn
Cruz will never be elected president. If you believe so, you’re delusional.

Perhaps but I am not ready to show my back side to the thespians in the GOP already without a fight.

74 posted on 12/28/2014 6:08:20 PM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: null and void

Of possible “nut job conspiracy” interest.


75 posted on 01/17/2015 3:24:16 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: okie01
Half the damn government was involved in a conspiracy to deny us our 2nd Amendment rights.

Yes; because the if the people are allowed weapons, they might form militia, and if the form militia they might think that evils are no longer sufferable and march against their rightful masters housed in DC.

76 posted on 01/17/2015 3:30:28 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: trebb
For a bunch of folks who seem to have no positive plan to turn the government conservative, we do have a bunch of smart and intuitive folks - I bet if they all stopped with all the negative things we can't/shouldn't do, and laid out a positive plan of action, we might have a winner.

Well, I've been working on possible amendments as a solution to much of the crap in the federal government.
Amendment Booklet
[FR Comment Thread]

I ought to send/fax it to (a) the members of congress, and (b) all the state legislatures.

77 posted on 01/17/2015 3:36:30 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SaraJohnson
The Bush family wants the new world order badly. Part of that is disarming the world (except the police, militaries and the elite.) They have to actually get rid of a lot of the constitution and the borders between Canada and Mexico.

I believe this is why the `08 election was Obama v. McCain. (Both of questionable NBC qualification; essentially setting up a Morton's Fork WRT erosion of the NBC requirement.)
It is also a reason I cannot endorse Cruz as President. (Born in Canada, to a citizen and non-citizen; if elected will likely cement the precedent of Obama.)

In short, I believe the one world government types are playing us — building precedents which undermine the troublesome portions of our Constitution… esp. if they can get away with it by giving lip-service (the 2nd Amendment vs. the GCA and NFA, or restricting firearms from federal property, for example).

78 posted on 01/17/2015 3:42:21 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: pallis
The mystery is why people involved in that little conspiracy to destroy the Constitution aren’t in prison.

Not much of a mystery.
You see, the Republican party is about none of what it claims to be about, they put on a show (with Issa) about investigating Fast and Furious but, in fact, did nothing.

Why?
Because they agree with the Democrat agenda. (More aptly described as The Statist Agenda.)
Look at how the Republicans failed to take advantage of the no-lose situation of attacking the NSA after Snowden's reveal. (At worst they would have failed at abolishing the NSA, yet had something to point to saying See, we are upholding the Constitution and garnered a lot of political capital — instead they sat on their hands, spoke from both sides of their mouth, and did nothing.)
Ir the IRS political targeting. (Again, many Democrats know that these tactics can be used on them too; Nixon did it — smacking the IRS down would only have generated positive political capital.)
Look at how, after gaining a landslide victory they backpedal on repeal of ObamaCare.

So, why then didn't they capitalize on these no-lose scenarios?
Because the moment they would have appeared to do something they would have been pressured into following through — moreover, their fellow congressmen [on both sides of the aisle] would be pressured to act.

They are statists and cannot bear the thought of harming their god: government.

79 posted on 01/17/2015 3:53:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RC one
Once we have the house AND the senate

What!?

Composition of the House (57% Republican)
114th Congress: 435 seats, 188 Democrat, 247 Republican
Composition of the Senate (54% Republican)
114th Congress: 100 seats, 44 Democrat, 54 Republican, 2 Independent
We have the majority of both.
80 posted on 01/17/2015 4:00:03 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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