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Got Obamacare? Great! Now here’s your audit: The postman always rings twice… at least.
Hotair ^ | 01/04/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 01/04/2015 5:32:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Since you’re enjoying your Obamacare health insurance policy so much, you might not be all that put off by a few extra pieces of mail showing up at your door. There’s all those forms to fill out and medical providers to screen, complicated prescription plans and all the rest. But now that the new year is upon us and tax time is approaching, you may want to prepare for an extra surprise from the mailman. It’s coming from the IRS for many of you and it’s not a birthday card.

Moe Lane of Red State kicks the tires of this soon to be entrenched cycle.

“As many as 3.4 million people who received Obamacare subsidies may owe refunds to the federal government, according to an estimate by a tax preparation firm… H&R Block is estimating that as many as half of the 6.8 million people who received insurance premium subsidies under the Affordable Care Act benefited from subsidies that were too large, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.” Although it’s definitely going to be a problem: ‘several million people suddenly discovering that they now owe back taxes to the government over Obamacare’ is not exactly a good scenario, especially if you belong to the political party that set that scenario up in the first place. But it’s still not the worst thing for Democrats.

No, the problem for Democrats here is that this is going to happen every year. The system is more or less designed to assume that people would twiddle with their coverage on a regular basis: as plans changed, improved, or degraded the consumer would be obligated to follow suit, in order to keep the subsidy. This sounds perfectly reasonable… if you’re not the one doing it. But out in the real world?

Moe points out that this is likely more of a feature than a bug, and it’s not going to change any time soon. As long as you are unable to predict what your medical requirements will be and the rules keep changing from year to year, there will be no effective way to plan for precisely what your costs will be and how the reimbursements will affect you come tax time. As the author notes, it might be better if the law was even worse, as long as it was consistently worse.

In any event, if you know anyone who is enrolled in Obamacare, you might do them a favor and tell them to set aside a few extra dollars from their paychecks between now and the middle of April. Apparently they’ll need it when the tax man cometh.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: audit; irs; irsobamacare; obamacare; obamacaresubsidies
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1 posted on 01/04/2015 5:32:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Good. Stupid SHOULD hurt.


2 posted on 01/04/2015 5:37:39 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Moe points out that this is likely more of a feature than a bug, and it’s not going to change any time soon. As long as you are unable to predict what your medical requirements will be and the rules keep changing from year to year, there will be no effective way to plan for precisely what your costs will be and how the reimbursements will affect you come tax time.”

The subsidies are based on your income, not your medical requirements. All you have to do is accurately predict your income for next year. How hard is that? (Don’t answer!)


3 posted on 01/04/2015 5:40:30 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: SeekAndFind

Everybody Polka!


4 posted on 01/04/2015 5:42:56 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: proxy_user
All you have to do is accurately predict your income for next year. How hard is that? (Don’t answer!)

Well, considering the economy's condition, and the amount of regulation... I think trending towards $0 is accurate.

5 posted on 01/04/2015 5:48:03 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: proxy_user

So is somebody not just looking at income but also what people are buying?


6 posted on 01/04/2015 5:49:11 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good. Stupid SHOULD hurt.

My husband always says “stupidity needs to be punished”!


7 posted on 01/04/2015 5:53:38 PM PST by Isabel2010
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To: SeekAndFind
If the Supreme Court disallows Obamacare subsidies for those who get their insurance from the federal exchange then there may be a whole bunch of poor folks who will owe money to the IRS.
8 posted on 01/04/2015 5:53:59 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: SeekAndFind

Government Gone Wild


9 posted on 01/04/2015 6:03:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: proxy_user
There is that tiny little case before the Supreme Court...the abundantly clear one about the 36 states who did not set up “Federal ACA compliant exchanges” for their citizens.

So,when those promised Federal tax “subsidies” for the deluded citizens who gleefully purchased the government approved and illegal commercial insurance policies, are declared unconstitutional in those 36 states, what happens next?

A total 2015 tax amnesty for all USA citizens?

ROTFLMAO!

How will the USSC possibly attempt to justify not rendering a decision in this case, in the first week of January, before any citizen gets their W2s and 1099 tax forms?

I already find it inexcusable that this clear case of constitutional law was not rendered last year!

10 posted on 01/04/2015 6:16:54 PM PST by sarasmom ( Extortion 17. Obama's revenge on the DOD for the killing of Osama Bin Ladin.)
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11 posted on 01/04/2015 7:03:38 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Captain Compassion
If the Supreme Court disallows Obamacare subsidies for those who get their insurance from the federal exchange then there may be a whole bunch of poor folks who will owe money to the IRS.

Professor Gruber, please pick up the white courtesy phone...

12 posted on 01/04/2015 7:09:55 PM PST by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: IncPen

Meanwhile, Gruber very likely commited outright fraud in billing for his “services” to create this monstrosity.


13 posted on 01/04/2015 7:15:36 PM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

EXACTLY! Stupid should hurt!


14 posted on 01/04/2015 7:21:13 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

My brother owns a construction company. Health insurance per employee has gone up $200.00/ month per employee and deductible went up to $10k per year. So much for being affordable. If the stupid among us get hammered by the IRS, good!


15 posted on 01/04/2015 7:27:52 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: wjcsux
My brother owns a construction company. Health insurance per employee has gone up $200.00/ month per employee and deductible went up to $10k per year. So much for being affordable. If the stupid among us get hammered by the IRS, good!

One imagines the possibility of low-information voters suddenly gaining their sight, as the scales fall from their eyes...

16 posted on 01/04/2015 7:36:37 PM PST by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: Flick Lives

> Meanwhile, Gruber very likely commited outright fraud in billing for his “services” to create this monstrosity.

From the looks of things I may not have the funds to pay into the politicians slush fund pyramid scheme this year unless things change.


17 posted on 01/04/2015 7:51:12 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Unfortunately the punishment will affect many who hate Obamacare, not just the stupid.


18 posted on 01/04/2015 8:35:04 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob

I know... :(


19 posted on 01/05/2015 4:25:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS will not go after these people—it would lead to too much bad press for the Wons’ big plans for a single payer system.


20 posted on 01/05/2015 5:46:38 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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