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NFL investigating if Patriots used deflated footballs in AFC Championship game
FoxNews.com ^ | 1-19-2015 | Fox News

Posted on 01/19/2015 7:48:57 AM PST by servo1969

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To: kjam22

Likely, but the combination of inflation pressure and the ball weight would obviously indicate a difference.

That and Helium would would leak in a football rather quickly.


141 posted on 01/19/2015 9:02:32 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I agree... I’ve thrown a ton of footballs as well. But that practice weight was always a different type of ball. A heaver ball than the game balls. We never said... hey.. let’s put more air in it so it will be a lot heavier to practice with.


142 posted on 01/19/2015 9:02:38 AM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I didn’t know that. I didn’t know the properties of helium woul prevent a football from holding it? Hmmm....


143 posted on 01/19/2015 9:03:34 AM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: SamAdams76

Now you’ve done it .... giving away secrets planned for the SB.


144 posted on 01/19/2015 9:03:55 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: timestax

Handoffs...

It might matter some. But, it was 50 degrees at game time (true it was raining more as the game went on). I don’t think ball handling is much affected unless it’s a lot colder. Even if the cold reduces air pressure, in the teens the ball feels like a rock.


145 posted on 01/19/2015 9:04:35 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I’m off to go play golf. I gotta find a way to use illegal equipment that my buddy won’t recognize. I need all the help I can get there.... Later.


146 posted on 01/19/2015 9:05:56 AM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: timestax

The league has guidelines on how much pressure the ball must have — between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch, weighing between 14 and 15 ounces.

Kravitz says the fine could be a stiff one if the Patriots are found guilty.

There was a delay before the third-quarter-opening kickoff that might have included game officials investigating the balls the Patriots were using.


147 posted on 01/19/2015 9:06:33 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: timestax

I think these balls must have really hurt the Colts defense. It caused them to not be able to stop the run.

This is just another case of a team that plays half of their games indoors having to play outside in adverse weather conditions getting their but kicked.


148 posted on 01/19/2015 9:06:37 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Republic

ping


149 posted on 01/19/2015 9:08:05 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: servo1969

Cheating only matters if it affects the outcome of the game. /sarc


150 posted on 01/19/2015 9:09:10 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: kjam22

Not the properties of Helium but the physical configuration of the football. Bladder of butyl rubber (I think) has porosity and then covered by a seamed leather cover. LotsaLeaks.

Helium, being the smallest naturally-existing molecule can not be controlled (your kids’ Mylar birthday-ballons don’t float after 2-3 days, right?).

I’d be willing to experiment regarding a completely-helium inflated football (at 13.5 psi) that would essentially be unplayable at game time of an NFL game given the pregame activities of throw/catch/kick etc.


151 posted on 01/19/2015 9:11:02 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: kjam22
Think about it..... no football weighs 13 pounds. None of them. They regulation is for air pressure. It has been poorly reported that it was about weight.

LOL! 13 pounds would be a heavy football. It would have to be made of iron to weigh that much.

152 posted on 01/19/2015 9:11:11 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: kjam22

model rockets in the ball, I am sure nobody would notice... lol


153 posted on 01/19/2015 9:13:32 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Tijeras_Slim

lol, my bad, I knew they were playing the Texans, not the Packers.


154 posted on 01/19/2015 9:14:29 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: timestax

I’m not seeing the risk reward on it. Because the balls get inspected you have to have them regulation before the game, then you’ve got to mess with them in relatively plain sight, and hope nobody spots you, or the refs don’t feel the difference. And what do you get? Slightly improved grip? But also a ball that’s different from what your team has been handling all their careers, which in the end makes the ball harder to use.

Just look at the kerfuffle the NBA had a few years ago when they changed the ball, according to all the “science” it was a better ball, better grip, easier to control, less variation in the bounce. And all the players hated it (and scoring dropped) because it wasn’t the ball they’d been using all their lives so its behavior wasn’t what they were used to. And eventually the NBA went back. A slight change in the grippiness of a ball will change the point of release on a throw, which will change the flight path. That’s just not the kind of thing players will get used to, not even in a week’s practice.

It just doesn’t add up. It’s a high risk no reward situation.


155 posted on 01/19/2015 9:14:47 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: 9thLife

Spygate is exaggerated. At the time, every team was videotaping their opponents’ hand signals during games.

Early in the season the commissioner sent a cease and desist letter to all teams. Belichick didn’t cease and desist, and was caught three weeks later.

That’s the whole thing.


156 posted on 01/19/2015 9:16:09 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: kjam22

My advice for the “colder” months of the year? Have a pocket in your bag wherein you can stash a few chem-heat packages. Keep all your game balls there.

Do not allow an extensive amount of time to pass before teeing off...the ball, under heat, will become soft and pliable and fly a few yards further than if it was cold; I have realized [up to] an additional 10 yards on the fly (roll-out is surface dependent..)

Please note that if you have a slice, those extra yards will be added to your left-to-right distance also. YMMV.


157 posted on 01/19/2015 9:16:38 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: servo1969
Did Pats Cheat ?

8-balls photo 8-Ball.jpg


158 posted on 01/19/2015 9:17:56 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: PGR88

No. It was the one’s that Blount folded in half and stuck in his back pocket.


159 posted on 01/19/2015 9:20:07 AM PST by Rick66
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To: timestax

That 8-ball infection can be helped with penicillin.


160 posted on 01/19/2015 9:21:34 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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