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Heroin problem: 'We're not going to arrest our way out of this'
The Dispatch / The Rock Island Argus [IL] ^ | January 18, 2015 | Rachel Warmke

Posted on 01/20/2015 10:24:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: ConservingFreedom

I remember the hard lessons learned in the late 60’s early 70’s about how deadly heroin use was. Guess every new generation has to find out personally. History repeats. Sad.


21 posted on 01/20/2015 10:44:09 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ConservingFreedom; Diana in Wisconsin

Merchants of death and misery deserve that which they dispense...


22 posted on 01/20/2015 10:44:45 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: RFEngineer

Rehab worked for my son. He now counsels others and runs a drug-free home for teens.

My nephew overdosed on heroin and died at 19, supposedly the first time he tried it.

The ex-husband tried rehab; he was just phoning it in. I divorced him. He’s got a new wife with an equally bad drug habit, now. A match made in Heaven. *Rolleyes*

My life is fantastic now, with both of them out of it. It’s 5 years out - still don’t trust my son. Don’t know if I ever will. *SHRUG*

It is what it is. HOWEVER - more needs to be done, other than just letting our loved ones DIE, which seems to be the consensus from Freepers who have lived charmed lives.

*Rolleyes*


23 posted on 01/20/2015 10:45:38 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
CF never tires of pimping for legalizing drugs

"Pimping" implies you have reason to think I'd profit from legalization (more so than the average citizen profits from an improvement in government policy). What is that reason?

24 posted on 01/20/2015 10:46:28 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You’re a lying fool.

Legalization will create an untold overwhelming number (millions) of dopers and addicts unable to work and entirely dependent on crime and welfare for their pitiful existence.

I get that you equate beer and marijuana as equal and that Marijuana Prohibition is as evil as when booze was banned.

But heroin? You seriously wanna take a stab at arguing the benefits of legalizing heroin?

Go for it, troll.


25 posted on 01/20/2015 10:46:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Our county just elected a new Sheriff. Apparently the old one just cleaned up the bodies with overdose cases. The new Sheriff said that any OD will be investigated to try to find who the dealer was a nail them.

They just busted a couple this week.

I know a young man who just went through a Christian rehab program. It’s a 7 month program, not 3-4 days like the celebrity stuff. He really seems to be on the right path.


26 posted on 01/20/2015 10:48:39 AM PST by cyclotic (Join America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: ConservingFreedom
>"the problem of people ruining their lives with substances, legal (e.g., alcohol) or illegal, is beyond the competence or authority of government to solve. "

Self responsibility !

The Drug Nazis want to blame drugs instead of the individual. Exactly like the Mooseslimes blame Women!

27 posted on 01/20/2015 10:48:43 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: ConservingFreedom; Responsibility2nd

You are new here, and it appears that your main reason for joing FR is to promote legalizing drugs, even dangerous narcotics. Your posting history proves this.


28 posted on 01/20/2015 10:49:02 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There is no real way out of this conundrum without raw, strong gospel power. And that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Our problems are not fundamentally political in nature, and will not be solved by political means. Our problems are fundamentally spiritual in nature; they exist in a realm where the State should tread carefully if at all. Our help is not in government.

Our help is in The Lord, who made Heaven and Earth.

29 posted on 01/20/2015 10:49:16 AM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: pepsionice

In Singapore which was historically the shipping point for most of the world’s opium they have an answer. If you sell drugs and are convicted they hang you (right now!).
Too may lives are totally destroyed by these drugs. You need to treat the traffickers like rabid animals.


30 posted on 01/20/2015 10:50:52 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: ifinnegan
Yeah. Let’s spend more and more on new OLD ineffective government programs.

You posted thus liberal Nazi mush head garbage.

31 posted on 01/20/2015 10:51:45 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Legalization will create an untold overwhelming number (millions) of dopers and addicts

So you think there are untold millions who are deterred by the chance of arrest and conviction, but absent that chance would not be deterred by the inherent dangers of the drug? Why should anyone believe that dubious claim? Are YOU such a person?

32 posted on 01/20/2015 10:52:12 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Jim Robinson

CF never tires of pimping for legalizing drugs.

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It’s is raison d’être. Oh, once is a great while he will comment off topic. He was banned and zotted once before for trolling FR with his non stop pro dope agenda.

But he re-registered and is allowed back. Now even to promote heroin?

I don’t usually ping Jim about his pro-weed agenda, but pro-heroin?

Yeah. I’m pinging the boss to see if he’ll take out the trash here, or if he will tolerate this.


33 posted on 01/20/2015 10:52:34 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thank you.


34 posted on 01/20/2015 10:53:42 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
No reason there to think I'd profit from legalization (more so than the average citizen profits from an improvement in government policy).
35 posted on 01/20/2015 10:54:03 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: BillM
In Singapore

So that's a vote for the United States of America to emulate a repressive regime. Me, I'll stick with our Founders' vision of limited government.

36 posted on 01/20/2015 10:56:24 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You don’t believe that punitive measures are reasonably effective in preventing drug use?

BS, epic BS.

The punitive measures I would have faced had I been found to be using drugs kept me in line and for the threat imposed, I’m grateful that I haven’t ended up like some dope addled libertopian...


37 posted on 01/20/2015 10:56:52 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now even to promote heroin?

Nobody's promoting heroin, liar.

38 posted on 01/20/2015 10:57:26 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; Responsibility2nd

” No reason there to think I’d profit from legalization (”

Who ever mentioned this? You know I didn’t. Try something else.


39 posted on 01/20/2015 10:58:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SZonian
So you think there are untold millions who are deterred by the chance of arrest and conviction, but absent that chance would not be deterred by the inherent dangers of the drug? Why should anyone believe that dubious claim? Are YOU such a person?

The punitive measures I would have faced had I been found to be using drugs kept me in line

And without those measures, you'd have used heroin despite its inherent dangers? That's mighty stupid - you couldn't pay me enough to mess with that sh*t.

40 posted on 01/20/2015 10:59:18 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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