Posted on 01/20/2015 10:24:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
You accused me of "pimping" - a pimp is motivated by profit.
” In Singapore which was historically the shipping point for most of the world’s opium they have an answer. If you sell drugs and are convicted they hang you (right now!).”
Malaysia and a number of other places do this. It works. THIS is a REAL war on drugs.
The War on (Some) Drugs has worked so well up to this point....
So that's a vote for the United States of America to emulate a repressive regime. Me, I'll stick with our Founders' vision of limited government.
Just like the War on Poverty.
Our founding fathers never dealt with the scourge of narcotics, as you well know, you fraud!
You ARE promoting heroin. In your subtle disingenous way. And when confronted you always retort with your three question non answer. See post 32. It’s how you argued when you were Just Say No to Nannies. It’s how you argue now
Your whole reason here at FR to is promote dangerous drugs and cause strife and arguments with us FReepers. Scroll up to see how HiTech and Diana are fighting with each other.
Thanks a lot troll.
“So you think there are untold millions who are deterred by the chance of arrest and conviction, but absent that chance would not be deterred by the inherent dangers of the drug? Why should anyone believe that dubious claim? Are YOU such a person?”
You have a point as I still don’t smoke pot even though it has been essentially decriminalized in my state. Is there any data in Colorado as to whether pot use has increased or decreased in the last few years? Heroin has no medical use what so ever, I don’t ever see that drug being de-criminalized. I do know some heroin addicts personally including one friend who died from the drug. They didn’t start out taking heroin but got there by first abusing alcohol then pot and onto harder drugs and eventually to the cheap heroin. Their lives were just a slow suicide, one finally snapped out of it the other couldn’t.
“But heroin? You seriously wanna take a stab at arguing the benefits of legalizing heroin?”
Sure thing. Here’s the benefits:
The drug gangs no longer control the product. No more turf wars over heroin. Safeway and Costco fight over market share.
Purity goes up to pharma grade. Much more potent stuff kills addicts quicker.
Price goes down. No more robbing grandma for her money.
Reduced access to minors. It’s easier to get heroin than it is to get beer for kids these days.
Billions saved by ending the DEA.
4th and 5th Amendments restored to their former glory.
Corrupt cops have to find some other way to make side money.
Not much downside to it if you apply a bit of logic.
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No it is not. The Graveyard is the answer. Ask Singapore.
And the health benefits to the user?
You forgot to mention those.
Suppose I thread hijack for a moment and ask for the benefits of child porn. I bet you could list 10-15 good reasons to legalize that in just 60 seconds.
And this is why it is so absolutely crucial to prevent them from ever getting exposed to drugs in the first place. Nobody starts out saying "I want to be a drug addict wreck." They just don't realize that is the all too common outcome of tampering with your brain chemistry.
They can't make an informed decision because it is impossible to inform them as to the likely consequences. Too many other people are steering them the other way.
Our founding fathers knew the nation would face new problems over the years - and they also knew that government is not the answer to most problems.
It is neither. Singapore solved it. We could solve it to if we made a point to vaporize dealers.
“And the health benefits to the user?”
No problem.
Pure product means no contaminants. Easier access through legal channels means more time to be productive instead of worrying about where the next high comes from.
Addicts would no longer have to deal with the violent criminal element to obtain the product. Just drop by Safeway, show ID, and head home.
Violent crime by drug gangs would drop. Far fewer 8 year old girls would catch bullets fired by gang members.
What’s your problem, you hate little girls or something?
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It is not a repressive regime. The millions of Americans in jail for drug offenses is repression. If the government would just stop the dealers permanently there would be vastly fewer people in prison.
The drug world loves to start them young. They hook them and destroy their lives before they can even get started. All the inner city violence stems from this very drug trade. Dead dealers don’t deal any more!
This has essentially been done with methadone. It doesn’t kill as fast as heroin just turns people into zombies. The zombies still want the lethal stuff so they buy heroin from dealers to bring death more quickly. Nothing has changed and your solution won’t get rid of the heroin dealers.
Exactly. It's always some faceless 'other' who's allegedly champing at the bit to use drugs but is held back only by the chance of arrest and conviction.
Is there any data in Colorado as to whether pot use has increased or decreased in the last few years?
A more interesting question is whether there's been an increase in the unemployable pot addicts the pro-criminalization crowd is always screeching about.
You're so much wiser than us unwashed masses - please run our lives for us.
Is there any data in Colorado as to whether pot use has increased or decreased in the last few years?
A more interesting question is whether there’s been an increase in the unemployable pot addicts the pro-criminalization crowd is always screeching about.
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