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Heroin problem: 'We're not going to arrest our way out of this'
The Dispatch / The Rock Island Argus [IL] ^ | January 18, 2015 | Rachel Warmke

Posted on 01/20/2015 10:24:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: ConservingFreedom
Brian Gaughan and the other current and former members of the law enforcement and criminal justice communities in Law Enforcement Against Prohibition disagree.

A sh*t I do not give as to the opinions of your pet "Authorities" as in FALLACY OF AUTHORITY.

Every one I have read so far remind me of those members of the American Psychiatry Association who removed homosexuality from the list of Mental disorders. Their logic went along the lines of "Because we cannot cure them, they must not be sick!"

That's your pet "Authorities" argument. "Because we cannot solve it, it must not be a problem."

No, the reason they cannot solve it is because the methods necessary for dealing with it are objectionable to a lot of Americans.

61 posted on 01/20/2015 11:26:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: BillM
The drug world loves to start them young. They hook them and destroy their lives before they can even get started.

Dealers don't card - only in a legal regulated market can age restrictions be enforced.

62 posted on 01/20/2015 11:27:05 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
"Because we cannot solve it, it must not be a problem."

No, that's your straw man - nobody's saying it's not be a problem.

63 posted on 01/20/2015 11:28:29 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Lurker

What’s your problem, you hate little girls or something?

____________________________________________

I used to, but now I see the beauty of your arguments. Now I want ALL little girls to have the free and wonderful experience of using pure heroin.

Lets start with your children. They use only the best heroin, right? And you see to it they use a clean needle each time.

You’re such a good parent.


64 posted on 01/20/2015 11:29:06 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I'd prefer redirecting the money we now futilely spend on apprehension and incarceration - but I'd like best of all leaving that money in the pockets of those who earned it.

Well if we could wipe out all the drug pushers, then we could keep our own money, but it is those people who are constantly pushing drugs on us that are costing the money.

Till we get rid of them, we are going to have to keep paying the money to prevent them from hurting people by exposing them to drugs.

65 posted on 01/20/2015 11:29:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom

. The Denver Post reports the study by the National Survey on Drug Use and Health found about 1 out of 8 Colorado residents older than 12 had used marijuana in the past month. Only Rhode Island topped Colorado in the percentage of residents who reported using pot as often, according to the study.

The study averaged state-specific data over two-year periods. It found that, for the 2011-2012 period, 10.4 percent of Colorado residents 12 and older said they had used pot in the month before being surveyed. That number jumped to 12.7 percent in the 2012-2013 data. That means about 530,000 people in Colorado use marijuana at least once a month, according to the results. Nationally, about 7.4 percent of people 12 and older reported monthly marijuana use. That’s an increase of about 4 percent.


66 posted on 01/20/2015 11:30:18 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: ConservingFreedom
Here is how to solve the problem.


68 posted on 01/20/2015 11:31:41 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nice to see you admit you’ve lost the argument.

Have a nice day, liberal.

L


69 posted on 01/20/2015 11:31:42 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Your solution to heroin has already been done by the state via methadone. It doesn’t work. The truth hurts.


70 posted on 01/20/2015 11:33:42 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: rawcatslyentist
Self responsibility !

The Drug Nazis want to blame drugs instead of the individual. Exactly like the Mooseslimes blame Women!

Chemicals that tamper directly with your brain chemistry do not allow for free will. Individuals have NO HOPE of understanding how dangerous they are.

Self responsibility is impossible with mind-altering substances. You might as well decide to try to stay awake while being anesthetized. It is simply impossible.

71 posted on 01/20/2015 11:36:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: outpostinmass2

“Your solution to heroin has already been done by the state...”

Therein lies the problem.

While you’re at it please cite for me exactly where in Article 2, Section 8 the federal government is granted the specific, enumerated power to regulate what people put in their bodies.

Take your time. I’ll wait.

L


72 posted on 01/20/2015 11:36:55 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
You are new here, and it appears that your main reason for joining FR is to promote legalizing drugs, even dangerous narcotics. Your posting history proves this.

I for one, wish there was some way we could vote such people off the website. You are right, that is pretty much what he does. He is ALWAYS posting articles highlighting some favorable claim about drugs and drug usage.

73 posted on 01/20/2015 11:38:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom

Check out ole Jamil! Yup! Holder’s Person. Give him an Oscar, after all, he’s “disadvantaged.”

http://qctimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/heroin-homicide-charge-a-first-in-rock-island-county/article_08b6260d-0366-53b9-8a8a-05a3b78e4525.html


74 posted on 01/20/2015 11:39:51 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Lurker
Have a nice day, liberal.

Will do, Mr. Conservative Dope-Pusher. Why, I'm off to the schools right now to push your heroin agenda on the little chill-rens.


75 posted on 01/20/2015 11:40:05 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So there are no drugs in Singspore?

Tell you what. You move yourself to Singapore and enjoy the full benefits of a police state.

The grownups will stay here and enjoy the limited, constitutional government our Founders gave to us.

Fair enough?

Don’t take any chewing gum with you. It’s illegal without a prescription in Singapore.

Enjoy your flight.

L


76 posted on 01/20/2015 11:40:21 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Responsibility2nd

The two of us tried....your turn .


77 posted on 01/20/2015 11:41:26 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: DiogenesLamp
articles highlighting some favorable claim about drugs and drug usage.

Please quote the favorable claim about drugs and drug usage in this article.

78 posted on 01/20/2015 11:42:04 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
So that's a vote for the United States of America to emulate a repressive regime. Me, I'll stick with our Founders' vision of limited government.

Hanging drug dealers is not repressive. It is what any sane and rational government would do. Putting up with drug dealers is repressive. It is why so many people live lives of misery. They just create victims.

79 posted on 01/20/2015 11:42:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep, classic liberal tactic. Can’t win the argument with reason or logic so the siren cry of “do it for the children” is invoked.

Mama Pelosi is so proud of you.

L


80 posted on 01/20/2015 11:42:15 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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