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This Report Is A Terrible Sign For The Economy
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| 1-27-2015
| Myles Udland
Posted on 01/27/2015 7:35:52 AM PST by blam
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To: alloysteel
Quite. Posted my #20 before I got to yours, but looks like big trouble ahead.
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posted on
01/27/2015 8:50:38 AM PST
by
Riflema
To: reformedliberal
To most of us born in the last 70 years, we’re entering the Twilight Zone in economic terms. Deflation. Sounds good, but outside of the Pats, it is going to screw us all.
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posted on
01/27/2015 8:51:54 AM PST
by
Riflema
To: Toddsterpatriot
They should reinstitute the trading halt rules in the 1990’s—where any drop over 200 points in the DJIA automatically triggers trading slowdowns, including ending all trading for the day if the drop exceeds 600 points from the start of the session.
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posted on
01/27/2015 8:54:40 AM PST
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: RayChuang88
They should reinstitute the trading halt rules in the 1990swhere any drop over 200 points in the DJIA automatically triggers trading slowdowns, Barely over 1%? Too small.
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posted on
01/27/2015 9:01:00 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: ShadowAce; urbanpovertylawcenter
You are an idiot, economically speaking. That wasn't very FREEPER friendly.
To: RayChuang88
They should reinstitute the trading halt rules in the 1990swhere any drop over 200 points in the DJIA automatically triggers trading slowdowns, including ending all trading for the day if the drop exceeds 600 points from the start of the session.That's only trying to hide reality. Stopping trading doesn't affect the fundamentals that caused the stock prices to drop. Rising or falling stock market indices like the DOW are effects, not causes of things in the real economy.
Stopping trading following a drop in stock prices is like breaking the thermometer in an attempt to stop a cold wave.
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posted on
01/27/2015 9:46:47 AM PST
by
JoeFromSidney
(Book RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
To: 11th Commandment; urbanpovertylawcenter
Perhaps, but I expect a lot more from FReepers.
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posted on
01/27/2015 10:48:08 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: grania
We are already in a world financial war. The fallout will be extensive. Basically every nation for themselves. Just ask the Saud’s and the Greeks.
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posted on
01/27/2015 10:56:22 AM PST
by
justa-hairyape
(The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way. Was)
To: Riflema
Why are 30 yr mortgages at almost 4% when banks basically borrow the money form the Feds for free?
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posted on
01/27/2015 10:59:52 AM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: alloysteel
Remember, deflation is also a function of the NUMBER of consumers in the market, not just the number of dollars chasing goods - which is unprecedented since Weimar.
If there are no buyers, it doesn’t matter how many dollars there are, and that’s where this policy of QE starts to high-center. They are driving out growth at the same time they are flooding the market with cheap dollars.
To: central_va
Why are 30 yr mortgages at almost 4% when banks basically borrow the money form the Feds for free? Banks aren't currently borrowing from the Fed.
In fact, the banks are lending to the Fed over $2.5 trillion.
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:15:31 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
In today’s low interest financial times the mortgage industry didn’t seem to get the memo.
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:31:04 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: central_va
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:33:02 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Riflema
Dropping prices look good on the surface but if you build dirt moving equipment not so much. Or until the shoppers go to their bosses looking for a raise - or to beg to keep their jobs.
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:36:54 PM PST
by
Sirius Lee
(All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
To: urbanpovertylawcenter
Uh no. Those dollars might be going to Kumatsu or Hyundai.
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:39:35 PM PST
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
To: ShadowAce
And no “ pie” would ever get bigger....
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posted on
01/27/2015 12:40:38 PM PST
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
To: central_va
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posted on
01/28/2015 1:06:06 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: ShadowAce
You got me there!
So is it more like a cake? The economy?
I just filled my airplane with $4.40 a gallon avgas.
$50 less than last months fill up. I will put the 50$ towards my dozer purchase.
I am a happy idiot.
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posted on
01/29/2015 12:29:33 AM PST
by
urbanpovertylawcenter
(the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
To: urbanpovertylawcenter
So what you are saying is that everyone is gonna spend, spend, spend, and never save? Or that some won't lose their jobs and have nothing to spend? Or that others may get a promotion and spend more?
The economy is nothing like any food item. It grows and shrinks--it is not a fixed size.
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posted on
01/29/2015 7:43:11 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: ShadowAce
Saving inflatable fiat currency is risky, invest some in safe instruments like farm land and airplanes so you can grow something to eat or you can go somewhere if you need to.
And what you say about the changing economy is spot on, funny how government is not tied to any economic laws. They grow while we shrink.
How does that happen?
I believe the middle class has been scraping by and have unmet wants like mom's KitchenAid appliance that they have not been able to afford since big oil went all Clinton on us in 2007. Now that a few dollars will be left over, if not sucked off by Obamacare, some flurry of expenditures will be seen here in the short term.
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posted on
01/31/2015 4:32:56 AM PST
by
urbanpovertylawcenter
(the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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