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Ukraine needs America’s help
Washington Post ^
| January 29 at 8:12 PM
| Steven Pifer and Strobe Talbott
Posted on 01/30/2015 12:35:40 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Rodamala
This war is because a minority of Ukies want to align themselves with the E.U. and have the latte-drinking socialist life of your everyday unemployed Greek or Frenchman on the dole. Like I told the other moron, you need to stop reading Ron Paul or Commie websites for your news. The "separatists' represent 5 or 10 percent of the population, and they're the ones with Communist flags hanging everywhere.
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Good luck with your war, douchebag.
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
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posted on
02/01/2015 2:54:39 AM PST
by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Ukraine was created by Lenin in 1922 of Russian Empire territories populated by several ethnicities - Russians, Little Russians, Jews, Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, etc. Russians were living in those regions for centuries, why they must migrate and not anybody else?
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posted on
02/01/2015 4:17:21 AM PST
by
Cossak
To: PieterCasparzen
I have many clergy friends UMC as well as other that I connect with in Ukraine. But, I do appreciate your thoughtfulness. Thank you
To: All
America can’t even help America.
To: Rodamala
Good luck with your war, douchebag. Good luck spreading easily refutable Russian propaganda (outside of the Alien Astronaut and 9/11 Truther zone) and not being called a traitor or a goober.
To: Cossak
Ukraine was created by Lenin in 1922 of Russian Empire territories populated by several ethnicities - Russians, Little Russians, Jews, Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, etc. Russians were living in those regions for centuries, why they must migrate and not anybody else? The "Russians" you are referring to are the Kievan Rus, aka, the Ukrainians, who had been there since ancient times, the same group of people your country killed around 7 million of so you could put in your Muscovite gulag guards and other low-IQ psychopaths.
To: Jim Noble
I mean, look at the quality of the responses from the pro-interventionists - accusing long term FReepers of wanting to have sex with Putin, or being on the Russian payroll, among other things. Good observation...there are some relevant examples of exactly that type of thing right on this thread.
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posted on
02/01/2015 10:29:36 AM PST
by
mac_truck
( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
To: mac_truck
Da, comrade. Funny to watch the Russians and their sycophants whine about it. Warmonger! WARMONGER! IMF! LOLOL
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Isn't it funny? Ukraine is attacked, and its supporters are "warmongers."
To: 1rudeboy; All
American taxpayers are concerned about the growth and power of, and financial obligation, to unelected international institutions like the IMF...the folks on your side not so much.
One need only look to recent events in Athens to see how badly things will turn out in Kiev, so why throw money down that same rat hole?
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posted on
02/01/2015 12:25:39 PM PST
by
mac_truck
( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
To: mac_truck
Of course, the Russians don't want us spending any money at all. No differentiation between wasted spending and not. To them, it's just "get conservatives to reflexively react because it's spending." You might be able to play others for a sucker, but your spin is transparent to me.
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I am sorry I called you a douchebag.
To: Rodamala
I am sorry I called you a douchebag. Not a problem! And I've been called worse, anyway.
To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All
The Ukraine may need America's help but the question is does America have any interest in helping the Ukraine. I have read most of the responses here and do not find any specific mention of what US national interests are in the unfolding Russian-Ukraine conflict. Is there any major interest? Does the US have any significant interest in any state in East Europe other than Poland? If we have an interest what is it, specifically? Much of the commentary here represents slogan speak and little reflection on what level (if any) should the involvement of the US be in this dispute. I hope some posters will have something substantive to say and comments get beyond knee jerk anti-Russian or knee jerk neo -isolationist sloganeering.
To: robowombat; UMCRevMom@aol.com; All
The Ukraine may need America's help but the question is does America have any interest in helping the Ukraine. I have read most of the responses here and do not find any specific mention of what US national interests are in the unfolding Russian-Ukraine conflict. Is there any major interest? The interest is obvious: stopping expansion and further aggression from Russia. If Russia is not stopped here, he will continue invading countries-- even NATO, which they are already threatening to do, though they talk about "rebellions" that might suddenly occur "hint hint".
I'm surprised you even need to wonder what our interest is.
To: Cossak
Russians were living in those regions for centuries, why they must migrate and not anybody else? Because when they live in another country, Putin uses them as an excuse to invade.
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posted on
02/01/2015 5:55:53 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
‘The interest is obvious: stopping expansion and further aggression from Russia. If Russia is not stopped here, he will continue invading countries’
Russia is not the Soviet Union. Containment was against communism. Containment of or attempted containment of normal great power behavior in a corner of eastern Europe has no , to me, compelling interest component for the US. If it is a problem for anyone it would be European countries. The return of the domino theory does not stir me. At most it may be of some interest to the US to provide enough material support through intermediaries to keep the Russians and Ukrainians fighting among themselves so that potential Russian-Polish conflict can be discouraged.
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