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Approaches vary on vaccines for children
Quad City Times ^ | 2/12/15 | Linda Cook

Posted on 02/15/2015 8:24:47 AM PST by azkathy

Karen Hains of Bettendorf has chosen delayed vaccinations for her children.

Hains’ daughter received her 2-month immunizations on schedule. Right afterward, she said, the baby “had bloody, mucusy stools for a week and could hardly nurse,” Hains said. The little girl also ran a fever of 102 degrees.

“After the 4-months vaccinations, she had (a reaction) again, but a little less severe,” Hains said. “That was enough for me to realize that was definitely because of the shots. It wasn’t until my second child that I decided to do something different.”

With her second child, she waited until after 6 months for the first vaccination. Now Hains’ children are 13, 11, 8 and 5. The youngest is not yet caught up with vaccinations.

“My kids were not in day care,” Hains said. “Children in day care get exposed to a lot more illnesses.”

Because they were at home, she said, “I had the luxury of delaying without requiring an exemption.”

The three oldest attended a licensed preschool and were up to date with their immunizations by the time they each were 4 years old, Hains said.

“For my fourth child, I did preschool at home, so we didn’t have that deadline,” Hains said. She now is homeschooling all four of her children.

“Dr. Sears has a delayed-vaccination schedule that some parents choose to follow,” Hains said, referring to Dr. Robert W. Sears who wrote “The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child.” Sears suggests an alternative schedule that delays the injections or spaces them farther apart.


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From the article, "“The only thing I ever say to any parent is to do your research and know you have a choice,” she said. “Do what you feel is right for your family.”

This right is under ATTACK right now. Even if you are OK with the current CDC recommendations for 50 vaccinations by the time a child is 6, are you OK with the vaccination schedule of the future? They do have over 300 new vaccines in the "pipeline."

1 posted on 02/15/2015 8:24:47 AM PST by azkathy
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To: azkathy

I don’t know where you come up with 50 vaccinations ... because we have a four-year old and there’s nowhere near that amount, and he’s got another year and a half. By the time he’s six, it looks like it will be around 20, to me. I would have to check to make sure, but I do have his record thus far, since we have to present it at school.


2 posted on 02/15/2015 8:28:39 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Smokin' Joe; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; machogirl; ...

Hard to find a balanced article on parental rights regarding vaccines these days.


3 posted on 02/15/2015 8:29:02 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Star Traveler

http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/49-Doses-PosterB.pdf


4 posted on 02/15/2015 8:35:43 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

I can’t tell you what my neighbor is doing with their kid, but I can tell you that I have the actual results for our kid and it comes nowhere near this. So, there’s a discrepancy somewhere in this information ... but “my information” is based on “actual results” with our kid.


5 posted on 02/15/2015 8:48:26 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: azkathy

This kind of delaying is horribly irresponsible and stupid. It isn’t just daycare where children are exposed. If a parent ever takes the child out of the house or allows anyone to visit, that child can be exposed. In some cases, the parent can expose the child. Whooping cough, for example, often causes minimal symptoms but it is serious and potentially deadly to babies whose immune systems are still undeveloped and cannot fight it off.

I seriously question the notion that parents somehow have the expertise to “do their own research” and come up with a vaccination schedule that is somehow more effective than the schedule that panels of experts (physicians and PhD scientists) review regularly and recommend. All they are doing is substituting the best expert opinion possible for the non-expert opinion of someone trying to make easy money—either way, they aren’t “doing their own research.”

I hate to say it, but the expertise resulting from the decades of education and experience represented in an expert panel cannot be replicated by parents who have taken a couple of high school science classes and know how to use Google.

There is a term for people who think that they know as much as the experts in a subject: it’s the Dunning-Kruger effect. That’s what happens when people who have a tiny bit of knowledge about a subject think they know everything. Conversely, when people actually learn a subject in-depth (as through the process of earning a PhD or equivalent), they then realize that no matter how much they learn, there is always more to learn, and they then underestimate the level of their knowledge.


6 posted on 02/15/2015 8:50:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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This gentleman hit’s the nail on the head. “History is replete with what people believed being later dispelled. But as Dr. Walter R. Hadwen correctly said in 1896, “Majorities are never the proof of truth.”

The choice to vaccinate should be the individual – not dictated by laws. But those that push for more and more laws and shield vaccine manufactures from any responsibility whatsoever disagree. Since all vaccines are akin to the holy grail of the medical world those that question are considered heretics that must be crucified – if not literally certainly figuratively.

Emeritus Professor F. W. Newman stated in 1874 “I assert that it is beyond the functions of law to dictate a medical procedure, or enforce any scientific theory.” No truer words were spoken. That’s what freedom and self-determination are in an enlightened society. We certainly can’t have that.”

- See more at: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2014/10/09/crucifying-the-vaccine-heretics-by-roman-bystrianyk-co-author-dissolving-illusions-disease-vaccines-and-the-forgotten-history/#sthash.KgqyJyrf.dpuf


7 posted on 02/15/2015 8:54:48 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: exDemMom

I don’t think this Expert should be considered “stupid” DO YOU?

“There are unanswered questions about vaccine safety... No one should be threatened by the pursuit of this knowledge.” “I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation.” - Dr Bernadine Healy, MD (Former Director, National Institute of Health and Former President, American Red Cross)


8 posted on 02/15/2015 9:00:47 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

The veterinary profession would not suffer a dog to get that many vaccinations. They’ve completely revamped their recommendations in light of clear indications that overvaccination is positively harmful.


9 posted on 02/15/2015 9:03:49 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: exDemMom

“the schedule that panels of experts (physicians and PhD scientists) review regularly and recommend.” Yes, I know what these experts recommend-don’t you think it is ludicrous to “recommend” that newborn babies be immunized for HEP B, a blood born, sexually transmitted disease that most babies are not even at risk for?

If that alone doesn’t make you question their recommendations, good for you. Just don’t try to convince me that these Experts have a right to make serious health/medical decisions for my family. I obviously understand the risks we should be concerned about better than they do.


10 posted on 02/15/2015 9:07:11 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Right, as proven by the ever increasing lifespans of humans.


11 posted on 02/15/2015 9:10:29 AM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The increase in autism and other serious vaccine injuries will eventually wake more people up to this “clear indications that overvaccination is positively harmful”.

I am reminded of a Yuri Bezmenov video when he said the “useful idiots won’t understand until the swift boot of government is up their butt.”

This is an issue that is beginning to go across party lines. Even people on the left are beginning to realize that the Government should not be able to control their personal health choices.


12 posted on 02/15/2015 9:14:59 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: exDemMom

Do you think this Expert understands the issue? “There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more harm than good.” “The manufacturers of these vaccines know they are worthless but they go on selling them anyway.” - Dr J Anthony Morris, PhD (Former Chief Vaccine Control Officer and Research Virologist, US FDA)


13 posted on 02/15/2015 9:20:23 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Regarding Hep B, you are at risk as a baby if your mother has it and gives birth to you. You can’t take the HIV, Hepatitis, or other blood/STD infectees at their word. They do a similar procedure with antibiotics in babies eyes, to make sure that in case a gonorrhea mom lied, the baby won’t have the gonorrhea germs dissolving their eyeballs.


14 posted on 02/15/2015 9:25:03 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: exDemMom

As I mentioned earlier, just because you are OK with the CDC current schedule of immunizations are you OK with what some Government entity decides you should have in the future?

They do have over 300 immunizations in the Pipeline. Some will target adults. See info here http://www.phrma.org/media/releases/nearly-300-vaccines-development-prevention-treatment-disease

I believe that we must fight to defend our personal rights. NO ONE has the right to tell me I must be injected with something, against my will.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke


15 posted on 02/15/2015 9:30:42 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Morpheus2009

That is why current OB/GYN’s test ALL pregnant mom’s for STD’s. In most cases they know their status before they give birth. Sure, if there is good reason, go ahead. There is not a good reason for most babies.


16 posted on 02/15/2015 9:33:56 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Tests yield false negatives. Women can contract it late in pregnancy too. I agree that it’s making a big deal out of what was likely a small number but hospitals are the ones held liable for something going wrong with a baby, or the doctors, so keep that in mind. It takes one person who sees a malpractice lawsuit to the doctor as a solution to their lost kid. The hospitals and Doctors don’t want the malpractice issues, so they go to great lengths with their precautions.


17 posted on 02/15/2015 9:38:20 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: azkathy

“No critical thinker, no honest person would ever sign off on the sight-unseen vaccine schedule of the future. And yet that’s what you’re doing when you condemn the people who are fighting for your right to refuse. Today, you have the right to refuse, should you ever choose to use it, because the very “anti-vaccine” people you demonize have been fighting for us all.

Right now, the burden of “herd immunity” — a false epidemiological construct designed to justify vaccine mandates — falls on small children, but that is changing. Vaccine manufacturers see an untapped market in adult vaccines and are coming for you next.

What will you do if your state, your employer, or your insurance company forces you to get a vaccine that you simply don’t want? Perhaps it hasn’t happened to you yet, but if the right to refuse is eliminated, it will and faster than you might think. Who then will you turn to?

Our “representatives” who are besieged by lobbyists and get campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies?
The CDC that has a revolving door with Pharma?
Your doctors who fear being brought up on disciplinary charges and losing their licenses to practice?
Mainstream media, which panders to industry and insists on politicizing a non-partisan issue? (U.S. is ranked #46 in the World Press Freedom Index 2014 behind Romania, Papua New Guinea, Slovenia, South Africa, Botswana, El Salvador, Latvia, Trinidad & Tobago, and Suriname among others. Haiti is #47.)
Who will you turn to if you ever want to say no?

There will be no one.”
http://fearlessparent.org/medical-freedom-what-rights-are-you-willing-to-lose/#.VN5OIkiYVdQ.facebook


18 posted on 02/15/2015 9:39:29 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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“The increase in autism and other serious vaccine injuries....”

When are you going to publish your study showing that vaccines cause autism and claim your Nobel prize for figuring out something that all the doctors and scientists missed?


19 posted on 02/15/2015 9:41:19 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Star Traveler

I believe that they count combination vaccinations for each of the diseases. Thus, the MMR would be three vaccines.


20 posted on 02/15/2015 9:45:13 AM PST by Marie
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