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Gardasil linked to deaths and disabilities after young girls vaccinated: Toronto Star investigation
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/13/15 | Steve Weatherbe

Posted on 02/16/2015 6:30:23 AM PST by wagglebee

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he questions whether its effectiveness against the virus is properly proven over the long term. A second problem: “It gives people a false sense of security,” encouraging teenage girls to take sexual risks, when “it only works against four out of 100 different forms of HPV.”

And yet it's being touted as some sort of miracle.

My guess is that Gardasil will actually harm more women than it protects and NOBODY knows what effects it will have when these young women are older and want to have children.

1 posted on 02/16/2015 6:30:23 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/16/2015 6:31:11 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Here we go again with another anti-vaccination rant. I am tired of people claiming some moral relevance when it comes to basic health. If you want to attack something, try the government for overreach and mandates. Better yet, if the government would tie benefits rather than punishments to their mandates,the other side would bitch. (I personally like that choice.)
Vaccinations are not perfect. They protect the herd more than the individual. Much of the data cited is numbers without any viable population study to back them. If it were effective against only one strain, and that strain was common, vaccination would still be a good option.


3 posted on 02/16/2015 6:43:52 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: wagglebee

Oh, my. Who wrote this article, and where is the actual documentation of adverse effects directly related to use of the vaccine?

Unfortunately, because of its open nature, VAERS is easily abused by anti-vaxxers. Literally anyone can enter a report of anything, so anti-vaxxers input stories of severe adverse events and then use VAERS as “proof” that a particular vaccine is horribly dangerous. Unless an investigation corroborates the report, an entry in VAERS means nothing.

The HPV vaccines seem especially prone to having unverifiable VAERS entries made about them. I guess part of the motivation for trying to discredit the vaccine is the ludicrous belief that somehow, girls who receive the HPV vaccine will suddenly become nymphomaniacs.

The HPV vaccine protects against the two strains of HPV that are implicated in the majority of HPV related cancers. It also protects against two strains of warts. HPV is implicated in about 5% of all cancers.

Since HPV vaccination started in 2006, the rate of HPV infection has dropped by half.

It is very important to give the vaccine *before* an adolescent becomes sexually active. Once they become sexually active, the chance of being exposed to HPV is extremely high. It is a good idea to vaccinate boys, as well, since HPV causes more than just cervical cancer.


4 posted on 02/16/2015 6:51:52 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: wagglebee

I strongly disagree that it’s a “tacit approval of premature sexual behavior.”

Your daughter or your son could easily marry someone with the condition. That person could have made just one mistake in his or her life. If he was raised in a Christian home like I was, he or she might never have been told about the prevalence of STDs and the danger of dying from HPV. The assumption was that ignorance was bliss. It wasn’t.

A normal-thinking young person would not have a false sense of security if they were also given information about incurable gonorrhea. There are still dangers.


5 posted on 02/16/2015 7:00:30 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: wagglebee

Sorry. If I had a daughter, I would not have her vaccinated wth this one. The research study was done on women over 25 years of age. Now it is being given to pre-teen girls with no study as to the impact. HPV does cause cervical cancer. But it is totally treatable if caught early. But Obamacare has been reducing the number of pap smears covered and doctors will be fined if they go outside the parameters set up by Obamacare. Not knowing the long term consequences of Gardasil, I would pass. And tell my daughter to be careful when picking a mate and don’t mess around yourself. HPV is completely preventable, but we would have to get back to a society that believes and practices telling the truth.


6 posted on 02/16/2015 7:12:50 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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HPV does cause cervical cancer. But it is totally treatable if caught early.

How many parents are willing to submit their young, presumably virgin, daughters to gynecological exams? Is there another way to "catch it early"?

7 posted on 02/16/2015 7:47:15 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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The Star's public editor had some big problems with the Star's original story. See here.
8 posted on 02/16/2015 7:48:43 AM PST by kalt
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To: JimRed; originalbuckeye

HPV is sexually transmitted. Gardasil is a vaccine against STD’s.


9 posted on 02/16/2015 7:49:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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10 posted on 02/16/2015 7:58:46 AM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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11 posted on 02/16/2015 8:00:14 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Steamburg; exDemMom; agrarianlady; wagglebee

What you inject into your child’s body is up to you but a responsible parent gets both sides of the info first. An informed choice is better than a blind one.


12 posted on 02/16/2015 8:11:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Human Papillomavirus (HPV) - CDC

HPV is the most common sexually transmitted infection

You can get HPV by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has the virus.

In most cases, HPV goes away on its own and does not cause any health problems.

13 posted on 02/16/2015 8:14:45 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: wagglebee

Bookmark.


14 posted on 02/16/2015 8:16:17 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: JimRed

I would say that young women do not usually need a pap smear until they are sexually active. But the pap smear is the best way, so far, to diagnose HPV. But you have to have direct contact with the virus to ‘catch’ it, so for now, just tell your girls that abstinence is a good idea until they are ready to commit. And then find a guy (yes, there are some guys that are also abstinent) who has your same values.


15 posted on 02/16/2015 8:18:23 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: DJ MacWoW

HPV does resolve on it’s own sometimes, but the only way to know is to get the pap smear. And yes, people who are having anal sex are getting ‘anal paps’ now, too.


16 posted on 02/16/2015 8:20:47 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: originalbuckeye

Ain’t that a gross thought.


17 posted on 02/16/2015 8:23:17 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes. But true.


18 posted on 02/16/2015 8:28:37 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: DJ MacWoW
What you inject into your child’s body is up to you but a responsible parent gets both sides of the info first. An informed choice is better than a blind one.

There really are no "both sides" here. There is the evidential side, and the non-evidential (aka anecdotal) side.

HPV, including strains 16 and 18, is incredibly common; almost everyone catches some form of sexually transmitted HPV.

Unfortunately, those who cannot fight off the disease go on to develop precancerous lesions. The treatment for cervical lesions is extremely painful, and can leave one unable to have children. The treatment also can fail, making hysterectomy necessary. The treatment for throat or anal lesions is also painful; I do not know of a backup treatment that is comparable to hysterectomy if the primary treatments fail. I guess there is no choice but to go for chemo and/or radiation in those cases.

19 posted on 02/16/2015 8:37:20 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Unfortunately, those who cannot fight off the disease go on to develop precancerous lesions

What are the statistics on that?

20 posted on 02/16/2015 8:46:28 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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