Posted on 02/16/2015 6:30:23 AM PST by wagglebee
Cervical dysplasia is classified as low or high grade. Low grade cervical dysplasia grows slowly and may resolve without treatment, the University of Maryland Medical Center (UMMC) states. Without treatment, severe high grade cervical dysplasia progresses to cervical cancer 30 to 50 percent of the time. Treatment of cervical dysplasia is surgical removal or destruction of abnormal cells.
Cervical conization, also called cone biopsy, is a surgical procedure done in an operating room to remove abnormal cervical lesions. General anesthesia puts the patient to sleep for the procedure. Cervical conization is used for cases of severe dysplasia; cure rate is 70 to 80 percent.
Surgical procedures to treat pre-cancerous cervical lesions do not affect fertility
According to a new study published in the journal PLOS ONE, researchers from Kaiser Permanente have found that common surgical procedures to diagnose and treat precancerous cervical lesions do not decrease a woman's chance of becoming pregnant.
Just a couple questions:
1. Do you have actual evidence that ALMOST EVERYONE will contract HPV?
2. What studies have been done on the long-term effects of Gardasil? Specifically, when these girls are in their twenties and ready to have children, are there ANY tests which show the potential effects of Gardasil after ten or fifteen years or longer?
About 250,000 to 1,000,000 women per year have a cervical lesion. About 12,000 women contract cervical cancer every year, and 4,000 die (in the U.S.). Worldwide, around 270,000 women die of cervical cancer every year.
According to a new study published in the journal PLOS ONE, researchers from Kaiser Permanente have found that common surgical procedures to diagnose and treat precancerous cervical lesions do not decrease a woman's chance of becoming pregnant.
Getting pregnant is not the same as carrying a pregnancy to term. I said that the treatment for dysplasia/early cervical cancer can leave one unable to bear children [because of the damage it causes to the cervix], not unable to become pregnant [because treatment does not affect the fallopian tubes or ovaries].
Of course, if the disease is advanced enough, or the LEEP or cone biopsy does not work, the resulting hysterectomy completely prevents pregnancy.
I should point out that the discussion of cervical cancer does not cover all of the HPV related cancers. Men also get HPV cancer of the penis, anus, and throat; women can get anus and throat cancer, as well. HPVs are thought to be causative in about 5% of all cancers. When all of the cancers known to be caused by HPV are included, all of these numbers go up.
YES!
Presenting scientific evidence equates to "pushing Big Brother's POV"???
May I suggest this appealing fashion accessory?
40 types of HPV, 15 are linked to cervical cancer, 4 are the target of the vaccine. 30% of HPV-linked-cervical-cancer viruses are the 11 not targeted by the vaccine. Titer levels from Merck suggest frequent boosters. Cervical cancer is NOT polio, measles, mumps, german measles, whooping cough. 9 year-olds? I CHOSE NOT to give my girls those shots. I explained to them what it was for and HOW this virus was acquired. Those “shots” are also expensive as heck. “Nymphomania” was not on my list of side effects from this vaccine. I wouldn’t suggest this for my boys either.
From the Govt. Cancer site in addition to the other stats
“Infection with high-risk HPV is the major cause of cervical cancer. Almost all women will have an HPV infection at some point, but very few will develop cervical cancer. The immune system of most women will usually suppress or eliminate HPVs. Only HPV infections that are persistent (do not go away over many years) can lead to cervical cancer.”
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM OF MOST WOMEN WILL SUPPRESS OR ELIMINATE HPV.
The surest way to eliminate risk for genital HPV infection is to refrain from any genital contact with another individual.
Because the vaccines do not protect against all HPV infections that cause cervical cancer, it is important for vaccinated women to continue to undergo cervical cancer screening. There could be some future changes in recommendations for vaccinated women.
The Govt. and Drug/Vaccine makers at best make mistakes and at worst make mistakes and keep them going. Best to be INFORMED and INFORMED doesn’t just mean the CDC and the Vaccine makers solely.
Anecdotal stories via VAERS or physicians/parents very often can be a HELP to the industry.
Why don't you answer wagglebee. Post 22.
The CDC, which keeps infectious disease statistics for the U.S., and the WHO, which keeps worldwide statistics.
2. What studies have been done on the long-term effects of Gardasil? Specifically, when these girls are in their twenties and ready to have children, are there ANY tests which show the potential effects of Gardasil after ten or fifteen years or longer?
So far, the long term effect is that there is a decrease in the incidence of HPV. I already referenced that in a previous post. Longer-term studies will probably show a corresponding decrease in the number of HPV related cancers and pre-cancers. Long-term, I expect that girls (and boys) who get the vaccine maintain circulating populations of memory B and T cells that recognize any of the virus strains included in the vaccine and destroy any viruses from those strains before they have a chance to cause infection. There may even be some cross-protection to other HPV viruses. This is how immunity works: once your body is exposed to a pathogen (through infection) or a non-infectious part of a pathogen (through vaccination), cells in the body learn to recognize that specific pathogen and are then able to destroy it if they ever encounter it. You have memory B and T cells specific for thousands of pathogens circulating in your blood right now.
Teenagers are not normal-thinking in the sense that they are, well, teenagers. Another post said this virus will not make girls nymphomaniacs. No, because girls today are very sexually active, more so than boys.
First of all, a range as broad as 250,000 to 1,000,000 indicates to me that it is at best a wild guess.
Secondly, here is what you link actually says:
The most common type of dysplasia is called mild dysplasia or “low grade”. This abnormality cures itself about 70% of the time.
And it goes on to say that the REMAINDER don't necessarily need to be removed.
About 12,000 women contract cervical cancer every year, and 4,000 die (in the U.S.).
Four thousand American females die EVERY TWO DAYS in abortuaries? Why do you not seem so concerned about that?
Getting pregnant is not the same as carrying a pregnancy to term. I said that the treatment for dysplasia/early cervical cancer can leave one unable to bear children [because of the damage it causes to the cervix], not unable to become pregnant [because treatment does not affect the fallopian tubes or ovaries].
Again, how large a group are you talking about? A few, a hundred? How many of these are the result of OTHER factors? Abortion ALSO makes it difficult to conceive and carry to term, but you don't seem concerned about that.
I should point out that the discussion of cervical cancer does not cover all of the HPV related cancers. Men also get HPV cancer of the penis, anus, and throat; women can get anus and throat cancer, as well. HPVs are thought to be causative in about 5% of all cancers. When all of the cancers known to be caused by HPV are included, all of these numbers go up.
Really? 5% of ALL cancer is caused by HPV? Do you have evidence to back this up or is simply conjecture?
Regardless, there are less than 600,000 cancer related deaths in America each year, your 5% number would account for about 30,000 deaths. We know FOR A FACT that nearly 30,000 Americans die in abortuaries EVERY WEEK.
Once more, do you have any data on the LONG-TERM effects of Gardasil? What will Gardasil do when women want to have children? People seem to forget that thalidomide was once a "wonder drug" too.
Do you have a clue how scientific research works? How clinical studies are done? About the process it takes to develop a vaccine in the lab and carry it through 10-15 years of testing (on thousands of patients) to generate the data the FDA needs before they will approve the vaccine for general use?
Just maybe, it looks like I am "pushing the meme" of alphabet agencies because they and I are all looking at the volumes of scientific data that exist about, well, just about every medical topic. Original research reports document the same results no matter who looks at them. That is why everyone actually looking at the science is pretty consistent with the message.
anyone who wants to give Gardasil to young children is purely insane
Why would I speak about abortion here, when the topic is HPV? I'll save the discussion about the dangers of abortion for a thread in which that is actually the topic of the article.
Drug companies spend more on advertising and wining and dining doctors to push their drugs than they do on R&D.
Big Pharma Spends More On Advertising Than Research And Development, Study Finds
But you keep trying to serve FR government Kool Aid.
Gardasil has only been studied for 8 years. There is NO REASON ethically one can use for THIS Vaccine to be mandatory for school. The Simian Virus contaminated Polio vaccine was in use for YEARS here in the US before that was taken out and only in the 1990’s was the MONKEY VIRUS found in HUMAN TUMORS. That’s 30-40 years after the fact.
And yet they’ll tell you that those vaccines saved lives even if people did die from cancers caused by them years later.
I see, the CDC states that "almost everyone" gets HPV, then goes on to say that it typically goes away on its own AND that there's no test for it.
So, just as they claim a range of a quarter million all the way up to a million women develop dysplasia (which typically goes away on it's own). They now extrapolate "almost everyone" getting a disease which there is no test for.
So far, the long term effect is that there is a decrease in the incidence of HPV.
That's all well and good, but it's not what I asked.
I asked, when these girls are in their twenties and ready to have children, are there ANY tests which show the potential effects of Gardasil after ten or fifteen years or longer?
You go on to tell me all sorts of generic things about vaccines, etc., but you completely avoid my actual question.
Let's try again, have their been studies about the effects of Gardasil on the female reproductive system a decade or more after it being administered?
Thalidomide was great for morning sickness, but the reality is that nearly all women make it through morning sickness just fine on their own while thalidomide was a tragedy of epic proportions.
People dying from any type of preventable illness is tragic, nobody questions that. What I would like to know is whether or not anyone has actually figured out if the side-effects are worth it. Are we prepared to render an overwhelming portion of the women of child-bearing age barren to MAYBE prevent four thousand deaths a year?
Oh really? I thought the purpose of a vaccine was to prevent unnecessary deaths.
This discovery was made by one lone doctor (IIRC) and all the Govt. will say is that this doesn’t mean that the SV40 caused any of the tumors. Amazing. Without the SV40 Rhesus contaminated shot, how would so many have come in contact with Rhesus Monkeys?
For some reason ( money included), if safety or ethics are questioned, the Alinsky Rules apply, ridicule and isolate. A vaccine researcher is in NO WAY more experienced in what is best for my children that I am. My oldest had the BAD REACTION. I learned from it and so did the Pediatrician.
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