Posted on 02/16/2015 6:30:23 AM PST by wagglebee
You know what? I don't care about the money. I care about the science, about the clinical trial data that the FDA examines to verify that the company did enough research and has the results to justify giving regulatory approval to the drug.
In fact, because I look at these issues so closely, I do not buy stock in pharmaceutical companies. It's tempting, sometimes, but I don't because for me, that would almost be like insider trading because I can so easily look at the published data about a drug or vaccine.
Actually, the scientific data is in the public domain. Most people don't know how to access it. Two easy websites to check are clinicaltrials.gov and www.pubmed.org. Those are searchable databases. All clinical trials are supposed to be indexed in the database, although not all of them are yet.
BTW, did you order your matching tin foil hats for you and your cat yet?
I really despise that term, “settled science”. It’s used to belittle diverse thought.
Inoculation against disease has been around for hundreds of years. Smallpox has an interesting history with inoculation.
When a president orders money to be invested in a certain kind of research, the money goes to that research, regardless of its scientific merit. That is not a scientific thing, but a political thing. In MOST areas of research, however, the president does not pay attention, and the funding goes to whoever writes the most scientifically sound grant proposals. Politicians can say that research in certain areas has priority, but they do not decide how the money is spent--the grant review committees composed of scientists make that decision.
Sometimes the FDA is wrong and has to pull a drug after approval, but you know that. They are not foolproof.
The "science" is driven by the money. That's been proven. It's no different than the global warming scam. You're naive enough to trust the government.
You on 6/25/2013, 7:48:45 PM: The purpose of government is to protect its citizens
That may have been true once upon a time but now it's about money, lobbyists and influence and anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
100% FAITH in any company to do the right thing is not justified. You have to do your own diligence. Obama surrounds himself with failures. I wonder why that is?
“Settled science” is in the same category as racism. You’re right as it is meant to silence opposition.
As an FYI with my whistleblowing. I did not ask for nor receive any money. I did it because it was the RIGHT thing to do.
No human system is perfect, but you know that. The FDA is pretty darned good at keeping unsafe drugs off the market, however. And as you note here, it can and does pull drugs after approval if further evidence turns up that they are not as safe as originally thought. Clinical trials do not end because a drug is approved--that is when phase 4 trials start.
Of course scientists work for money, as does everyone. Isn't it rather unrealistic to expect people to do all of that work without getting paid? Not to mention expecting the biotech companies that provide reagents for research, do you think they will give those away for free?
If you hate profit so much, why do you post on a conservative website? The stereotype of conservatives is that they only care about profit.
You on 6/25/2013, 7:48:45 PM: The purpose of government is to protect its citizens
That may have been true once upon a time but now it's about money, lobbyists and influence and anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
That actually remains true. Historically, that is the reason that humans started forming governments thousands of years ago. How governments are corrupted by politicians to serve the personal interests of those politicians is another matter. There is a whole lot I could say about the corruption in government, but that is not relevant to this topic.
This thread is about the scientific rationale of vaccinating pre-pubescent kids for HPV. The article posted above is a bunch of hooey, which I was trying to counter with facts.
You spin fairly well. Do you get paid or do it for free?
I don't recall saying anything about whole milk. I do recall commenting about raw milk, which is an infectious disease/health matter.
Within my area of expertise, I really do know just about everything. To be precise: I know the theory, and looking up the details of a specific topic is trivial.
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Murder by vaccine is OK, cuz its “For the (dead) Children.”
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I get paid for writing about science/health related matters, but, sadly, no one pays me for posting here. You get all the benefit of my expensive services for free.
OTOH, it's only fair that I should volunteer this service. You paid for my expensive education with your taxes.
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>> “ They protect the herd more than the individual.” <<
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The old eugenicist rant is back!
Garbage in, garbage out.
yes, It’s not 100% and it happens after the drug is approved. That means, anecdotal stories from patients and doctors are part of that reporting. The manufacturer isn’t going around to patients inquiring about injury (after clinical).
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>> “When I stick to the scientific position...” <<
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Here comes the heavy propaganda from Big Pharma!
(after all, they don’t really reap more than a trillion dollars a year from their poisons, its only “for the children.”)
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Except when they're not.
Again, where are the tests of girls who had the vaccine at the age of twelve or thirteen and are over twenty-five now and trying to have children?
Do such tests exist or are Merck and the FDA just taking a "fingers crossed" approach?
What do you expect the public reaction would be if say 20 MILLION women are found to be barren because of a vaccine that may or may not save at most 4000 lives a year? We are talking about a drug that is linked to the reproductive system and given near the onset of a girl's first menstrual cycle, how does ANYONE think this has no long term risks?
Yup. She shills for the government too.
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