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Marines allow MARSOC Operators to choose Glock's over 1911's
Military.com ^ | February 19, 2015 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 02/20/2015 1:58:01 PM PST by xsrdx

The Marine Corps has authorized MARSOC operators to carry Glock pistols, since most of the elite outfit's members prefer the popular 9mm over the custom .45 pistols the service bought them in 2012.

The Corps issued a Feb. 2 Marine Administrative Message, or MARADMIN, that green-lighted Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command, or MARSOC, units to use the Glock 19, a proven design used by many units in U.S. Special Operations Command.

The reliable, easy-to-maintain 9mm features a polymer frame and a 17-round magazine.

The Marine Corps just completed an exhaustive search for a new MARSOC pistol in 2012. The service awarded a $22.5 million contract to Colt Defense LLC., for up to 10,000 Close Quarter Battle Pistols.

The custom, 1911 design replaced the fleet of worn-out MARSOC M45 pistols. It features a rail for mounting lights, a custom trigger, a manual safety, improved ergonomics and glowing Tritium sights for low-light conditions.

As nice as the new .45s are, MARSOC troops prefer to carry Glock 19s instead, sources said.

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1 posted on 02/20/2015 1:58:01 PM PST by xsrdx
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To: xsrdx
As nice as the new .45s are, MARSOC troops prefer to carry Glock 19s instead, sources said.

Heaven forbid.

2 posted on 02/20/2015 1:59:33 PM PST by skeeter
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To: xsrdx

Let me guess ... the Marine Corps decided on it’s own to give their men a new toy and the men were never consulted whether they even WANTED it or not and ... as it turns out ... the Marine Crps wasted its time and money ... have I got that close to correct ?


3 posted on 02/20/2015 2:00:53 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true)
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To: xsrdx

They’re at the tip of the spear, give them what they want.

Met a former Delta operator that absolutely loved the Glock 19.


4 posted on 02/20/2015 2:03:15 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: knarf

The Marines insisted on an external safety. Glock politely declined.


5 posted on 02/20/2015 2:04:52 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: xsrdx

The Glock 19 is as close to perfect as it gets. A good Ghost Rocket Trigger setup and you are there. The size and weight are perfect.


6 posted on 02/20/2015 2:06:19 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: knarf

>>Let me guess ... the Marine Corps decided on it’s own to give their men a new toy and the men were never consulted whether they even WANTED it or not and ... as it turns out ... the Marine Crps wasted its time and money ... have I got that close to correct ?

Yep. A bunch of old people told young operators what they needed...when what they really needed was reliability and capacity.


7 posted on 02/20/2015 2:07:02 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: xsrdx

The 19 has a 15 round mag, you can use any Glock 17 Magazine however.


8 posted on 02/20/2015 2:07:52 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: knarf

It’s probably more related to the size of the pistol than anything else. Grunts hate heavy sh*t, and don’t use handguns much, so why carry a bigazz custom 1911. One could argue the Glock likely suffers punishment better and runs more reliably, but 1911 advocates won’t hear it.


9 posted on 02/20/2015 2:07:58 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: skeeter

I think any rational thinking person will agree-let the boys have whatever they want.


10 posted on 02/20/2015 2:09:33 PM PST by Romans Nine
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To: Romans Nine
My comment is made with tongue in cheek.

Personally I love the 1911. But then I don't plan on using it to defend my life.

11 posted on 02/20/2015 2:11:12 PM PST by skeeter
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Personally. I think I could still lug a BAR and a couple bandeleros. Maybe a beretta handgun-wise. I like the 1911 too.


12 posted on 02/20/2015 2:13:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’d give my left arm to own a BAR. Musta been a bear to handle though.


13 posted on 02/20/2015 2:15:29 PM PST by skeeter
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To: xsrdx

The only reason the military chose Beretta over Glock is that Anton’s gun wasn’t in the running when the trials were done in the early `80s.

I used to look down on `plastic pistols’. Now I have a Ruger SR9 on my waist, a S&W .40 by my bed and a Glock 19 right now in my end table 18” from my left hand.
A Glock 17 is a little big for most guys sitting down; I’m a big guy and the the 19 feels like Momma bear’s porridge: just right.
Yeah, I still have the all steel jobs with hammers. The problem with Glock is, they’re conservative to the point of petrification. American companies are passing them by with innovations, new features, even new companies like Robar improving Glocks, their point of aim, Lone Wolf for lead bullets, etc.


14 posted on 02/20/2015 2:16:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: xsrdx

I,ll take a surplus 1911....


15 posted on 02/20/2015 2:16:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: skeeter

Ya needed musckles and ear plugs .. I never fired one.. But what a way to say Hello !


16 posted on 02/20/2015 2:17:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: xsrdx

I wonder what is causing the stovepipe malfunctions?

The basic design is extremely reliable as in the 1911 tests, I think they ran 6000 rounds without a single malfunction. Maybe it was 5000, can’t remember for sure.


17 posted on 02/20/2015 2:18:57 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: xsrdx

The M1911 is an iconic firearm, arguably one of the most important in the development of modern handguns. As late as the 1970’s I’d call it one of the few semi-autos actually worth owning and carrying for serious defensive work. (Another being the Browning High Power.) But sadly it is not at or even near the top of the quality pyramid anymore. I’d never deliberately pick a fight with someone packing one. So yes, I do still consider it an acceptable choice for a defensive firearm. But it’s not an optimum choice and probably hasn’t been for the last quarter century. Apologies to the late great Col. Jeff Cooper who is probably spinning in his grave at my words.


18 posted on 02/20/2015 2:19:25 PM PST by NRx
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Salute to All those who have served in the face to face battle against our enemies.. And did it with Gusto .. And a trusty sidearm!

Here Here!!


19 posted on 02/20/2015 2:20:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: xsrdx
Wonder if the Marines tried out the 21 or 30 so they could still have the power of the .45 ACP and the Glock simplicity?

I have a 1911 and a Glock 30. Probably grab the 30 if in a real hurry.

20 posted on 02/20/2015 2:20:33 PM PST by doorgunner69
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