Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Just A Bit Of DNA Helps Explain Humans' Big Brains
National Public Radio ^ | February 19, 2015 | Nell Greenfieldboyce

Posted on 02/20/2015 11:40:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

(AUDIO-AT-LINK)

Scientists studying the difference between human and chimpanzee DNA have found one stretch of human DNA that can make the brains of mice grow significantly bigger.

"It's likely to be one of many DNA regions that's critical for controlling how the human brain develops," says Debra Silver, a neurobiologist at Duke University Medical School.

It could also help explain why human brains are so much bigger than chimp brains, says Silver, who notes that "there are estimates of anywhere from two to four times as big."

In addition to having bigger brains, Silver says, humans also "have more neurons, and we have more connections between these neurons."

Scientists would like to understand what the genetic basis is for humans' apparently special capacity for logic, abstract thought, complex emotions and language. Humans and chimpanzees have DNA that's remarkably similar — researchers say our genetic code is about 95 percent identical. But Silver and some colleagues recently started looking at pieces of DNA that differ markedly between chimps and humans.

"We went through those and picked out ones that seemed to be likely to be regulating gene activity in a developing brain," explains Silver.

One stretch of DNA looked promising because it was near a gene that's known to be involved in brain development. The researchers took the chimp version of this DNA and put it into mouse embryos. They took other mouse embryos and put in the human version.

"What we discovered is that the human DNA turned on gene activity in neural stem cells, and these are cells which produce the neurons of our cerebral cortex," says Silver.

Just before birth, mice with the human DNA had brains that were noticeably larger — about 12 percent bigger than the brains of mice with the chimp DNA, according to a report in the journal Current Biology.

"We were really excited when we saw the bigger brains," Silver says. Her team now wants to know if the mice will behave differently in adulthood. They're also looking for other bits of uniquely human DNA that affect the brain. "We think this is really the tip of the iceberg," she says.

The particular region of DNA they found to be important is in a part of the genetic code that was once called "junk DNA." This is DNA that doesn't code for proteins, so scientists used to think it served no purpose. These days, researchers believe this kind of DNA probably regulates how genes get turned on and off — but what exactly is happening there is still mysterious.

"We have very little scientific information about the actual functions of those regions," says Katie Pollard, who studies human and chimp DNA at the Gladstone Institutes and the University of California, San Francisco.

Most of the genetic differences between humans and chimps are actually found in the so-called junk DNA, Pollard notes. "While it's now pretty easy to find the genetic differences, it's very challenging to figure out exactly whether those differences made a change in a trait, and why."

This new study, says Pollard, "is helping to try to bridge that gap."

She called the bigger brains seen in the mice "intriguing" but said the effect it might have on the animals' cognition would be difficult to predict.

In this field of study, she says, one of the challenges has been that scientists would like to be able to make a genetic change and show that it really makes a difference. "But we're talking about humans and chimpanzees here, and you cannot experiment on either of those," she notes. "And so it's very challenging to prove causation."

In Pollard's lab, scientists are exploring the differences between chimp and human DNA using dishes of cells.

"We can now actually generate the equivalent of embryonic brain cells and tissues that are human or chimpanzee," says Pollard. "And, using genome engineering techniques, we can start to study the effects of switching the human and the chimp sequences in these primate cell lines."

Eventually, work like this could generate a list of DNA sequences that give a brain some capabilities that are characteristically human. That could be important for understanding what goes wrong in diseases of the brain. But could someone use that information to make the brains of a nonhuman species more like us — to create the kind of superchimps that mocked humans in the Planet of the Apes?

"One can never say never, but I think it's a pretty long-shot, far-fetched type concern," says Ruth Faden, who directs the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

An experiment like this recent one is not going to create mice that talk and think like people, Faden says. But it could be more ethically worrisome to try to genetically enhance the brains of nonhuman primates or other reasonably intelligent animals — like pigs.

That's something our own species might prefer to avoid, says Faden. "The prospect of, sort of, tearing down the barriers between humans and other nonhuman species in ways that really threaten our sense of ourselves as special is disturbing," she points out.

Even though any possibility like that would be far, far in the future, Faden says it's not too soon to start thinking about it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dna; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; humans; intelligence
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last
We went from the Wright brothers primitive aeroplane at Kitty Hawk to the Moon in less than 70 years.
1 posted on 02/20/2015 11:40:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meanwhile if you look up macrocephaly you will see that a very large brain without proper structure is completely useless.


2 posted on 02/20/2015 11:58:00 PM PST by LukeL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

3 posted on 02/21/2015 12:11:44 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy, and he is us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Repeal The 17th

Also Lack toast and tolerant.


4 posted on 02/21/2015 12:13:10 AM PST by LukeL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

John Holmes questions the science.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 12:17:46 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is also a correlation between big brains and big butts. You can’t have both - it’s either one or the other.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 12:21:45 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
He's got big brains!
She's got big brains!
But we've got the biggest brains of them all!
7 posted on 02/21/2015 12:27:20 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; blam; All

It will be really interesting to see whether the 12% larger brains in the human seeded brains actually causes differences when these mice grow up. Actually, it might even be interesting to see if their is any difference with those seeded with Chimp tissue, as Chimps are a lot smarter than mice.


8 posted on 02/21/2015 12:41:43 AM PST by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin
Cf. Erwin Schroedinger's MIND AND MATTER. pdf here . The fact is, I've had this in hard copy for years, and I knew a few snips of it, but I'd never really read it. But stimulated by a recent lunchtime converstation I found the cited source and finished my lesson. It's only a few pages, and as we might suppose from the inimitable SCHROEDINGER, it's quite illuminating.

He gets fairly technical, in general terms, regarding the mind/brain problem. I highly recommend it.

9 posted on 02/21/2015 1:50:08 AM PST by dr_lew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
bigger brains seen in the mice "intriguing"...

Its been done before. But what is it that we will do today?


10 posted on 02/21/2015 2:08:15 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yayyy.. The l'il world around the ol' lab there will soon be a real live Disney movie. What could possibly go wrong?

Careful with that beaker there, toots. Wouldn't wanna inadvertently create more dImocratic voters. d;^)

11 posted on 02/21/2015 3:47:53 AM PST by CopperTop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

And humans have 50% of their DNA in common with bananas. So the point is?


12 posted on 02/21/2015 5:38:02 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: I want the USA back
And humans have 50% of their DNA in common with bananas. So the point is?

DNA is raciss?

13 posted on 02/21/2015 5:41:57 AM PST by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just what we need, more intelligent mice.


14 posted on 02/21/2015 6:01:38 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: uglybiker

I’m ever upper class high society...
God’s gift to ballroom notoriety...


15 posted on 02/21/2015 6:17:43 AM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks gleeaikin. Good weekly Digest list ping as well.

16 posted on 02/21/2015 9:19:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("Through the Latin declension my point is still moot." -- Cliff Clavin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: C210N
I was traveling this week and I heard about this on NPR. The first thing I thought of was:


17 posted on 02/21/2015 9:30:20 AM PST by BBell (breathe easy obey the law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: C210N

18 posted on 02/21/2015 9:34:58 AM PST by BBell (breathe easy obey the law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

19 posted on 02/21/2015 9:44:21 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t experiment on chimps?

Since when exactly?


20 posted on 02/21/2015 9:48:42 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson