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Is Obama a Sunni or Shia Muslim Plant?

Posted on 03/04/2015 12:30:26 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

We know Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.

He has said he'll stand with the Muslims with things get ugly in his book.

He has said the future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet Mohammed.

He has said Muslims built America.

He has threatened to shoot down Israeli jets.

He has given the Muslim "one finger in the air" sign last summer.

Obama has justified ISIS actions by saying "The Crusades" just as ISIS has done in many videos.

He has a ring that says there is no God but Allah.

But what kind of Muslim is he? Not only do I believe he's hiding that he's a Muslim. But he's hiding what kind of Muslim he is.

At first glance the most obvious choice is that he is a Sunni Muslim.

1) He has funded/pushed/created the Arab Spring whereby dictators were thrown out in Sunni dominated Libya/Egypt and almost Syria (also Sunni dominated). Those dictators were replaced with (Sunni) ISIS rebels.

2) In Egypt the Dictator Mubarak was replaced with the front group The Muslim Brotherhood and Mohammed Mursi. (SUNNI)

3) He has bowed to the Sunni King of Saudi Arabia.

4) He has funded and given logistics information about US troop plans to the Sunni ISIS. You could even argue Obama, John McCain and Hillary helped create ISIS by sending them weapons in Libya and Syria.

4) Obama was born and raised and went to Madrassa's in the Sunni dominated Kenya. Indonesians are Sunni Muslims who Obama was adopted into.

So then it's quite the head scratcher as to why he would then hire Valerie Jarrett to run his administration who was born in Shiite dominated Iran.

Obama didn't support the Green movement in Iran which could have removed the Mullahs from power.

1. Obama's parent's marriage fits the pattern of NIKAH MUT'AH, a Shia doctrine for temporary marriage by which a Shia Muslim man may marry a Jew or Christian for a specific period, then the marriage dissolves. Sunnis don't approve of this doctrine. The nature of Obama's parent's marriage is otherwise unknown.

2. Shia Islam tends to be left-wing politically. Sunni tends to be right-wing.

3. Though a minority, Shia Islam has deep roots in Mombasa, Kenya. The Shia are better organized than the Sunni in Kenya. They have an active missionary program and run a number of schools and hospitals.

4. Kenya also has close ties with Iran. Ahmadinejad has visited there and they have signed numerous agreements concerning energy, agriculture, commerce, trade, etc.

5. Obama's relative, Railia Odinga, whom he traveled to Kenya as a US Senator to support, favors Shariah law for Kenya. He was instrumental in bringing about the Iranian-Kenya agreements signed by Ahmadinejad.

5. Obama's chief personal advisor, Valerie Jarrett, was born and spent her formative years in Iran. She has a very favorable view of the country.

6. During the Presidential campaign, Obama said he would sit down with Ahmadinejad and discuss matters without preconditions, in spite of his being a holocaust denier and saying he wanted to destroy Israel.

7. During the campaign Obama also had a private meeting with Hassan Al-Qazwini, Iraqi-born Shia who leads the Dearborn mosque, the largest American mosque. The press was not allowed to be present. They later admitted that they discussed the Middle East and Obama accepted a copy of Qazwini's book, AMERICAN CRESCENT.

8. This same mosque has hosted Black Muslim, Louis Farrakhan, as an "honored guest." So has Trinity United Church of Christ of Chicago.

9. After Obama was elected, Iranians danced in the streets and called him "brother." Arabic Sunni clerics, on the other hand, made death threats against him for hiding his identity as a Muslim and accused him of playing the role of "house nigger."

10. During the campaign Obama said he would go after jihadist Sunnis in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but wanted US troops out of Iraq where the Shia are in a majority and are trying to subdue Sunni influence.

11. During the elections in Iran, when the government brutally cracked down on protesters in the streets, there was hardly a voice of alarm or criticism from the Obama administration. Why?

12. Obama decided to send 30,000 plus troops to Afghanistan to fight Sunni Muslim jihadists. Iran and Shia Iraq might find this laudable since their effort is to wrest control of the region from the Sunni.

Given his expressions of favor to Shia Islam, is one not justified in questioning whether or not he may be a crypto-Shia practicing Taqiyya? What has he done to expell that impression? The Sunni do not approve of Taqiyya. But Taqiyya--dissimulation--a Shia doctrine, justifies deception and masquerading, pretending to be of another faith, for the ultimate glory of Islam.

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KEYWORDS: muslim; obama; obamaismuslim; shia; sunni
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To: ConservativeMan55
Simply said and have tried to impress on Americas mind the King Obama is a communists BLACK MUSLIM and a traitor.
61 posted on 03/04/2015 2:11:50 PM PST by Logical me
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62 posted on 03/04/2015 2:11:55 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Obama is a Sunni. Valerie is a Shiite. Together they plan to unite and rule the muslim world.

63 posted on 03/04/2015 2:13:13 PM PST by abclily
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To: ConservativeMan55

Which ever sect allows their believers to be homosexual & psychopathic liars.

64 posted on 03/04/2015 2:13:23 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Arlis

I stick with my info that he is of the sperm of a SE Asian Muslim named Muhammed Subuh who mama had an affair with in her early years gallivanting around SE Asia. The Kenyan was just a convenient stopover cover for the birth. Mama, Stanley Ann, couldn’t wait to get back to Indonesia to have little Obama indoctrinated and become a radical Muslim. The bowing to the Saudi King suggests to me he knows his parentage is from or is related to Saudi Muslim origins.

65 posted on 03/04/2015 2:16:14 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: ConservativeMan55
Some of that stuff may not actually be true. The ring, the threat to shoot down Israel planes are rumors that haven't been substantiated.

The majority of Kenyan Muslims are Sunni. When you say that the Shia are "better organized" -- sure, they're better organized in the way that small sects can be. Parsees or Sikhs may be "better organized" in India than Hindus or Mormons "better organized" than other denominations in the US, but the odds are against an Indian or American chosen at random belonging to those religions.

When it comes to Iran and Iraq or Shia and Sunni, we are usually against the ones who have the most guns shooting at us.

66 posted on 03/04/2015 2:25:49 PM PST by x
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To: x
"Some of that stuff may not actually be true. The ring, the threat to shoot down Israel planes are rumors that haven't been substantiated."

So you're willing to give 0 the benefit of the doubt? I'm not! His other actions lead me to believe the others are true.
67 posted on 03/04/2015 2:46:12 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Recent article in the Atlantic pointed out ISIS wants to bring around Armageddon. Maybe that explains the nuke deal underway with Iran.


68 posted on 03/04/2015 2:48:55 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: ConservativeMan55

He’s whatever type of muslim it takes to wreck the US.

69 posted on 03/04/2015 3:01:06 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ConservativeMan55

Obama is two things, a hardcore Marxist and a Moslem sympathizer. After that, it is mostly conjecture but the author does raise a lot of good questions, many of which I cannot answer with any positive statement.

I’m more acquainted with Obama’s communist-influenced life, starting with his father, a Soviet-aligned Kenyan Moslem (Luo tribe). The Odingas of Kenya: Odinga Odinga was a Soviet asset in Kenya, and affiliated with the KGB/CPSU front the “World Peace Council”, among others. Raila sounds like a leftist, Islamist opportunist but there could be much more to him than meets the eye.

Obama’s mother was a leftist hippy/social scientist.

His grandfather was hard left, and friends with Communist Party USA operative Frank Marshall Davis (in Hawaii). But he also was affiliated with a communist infiltrated church in Washington State. Why that one? You’ve got to know about its’ leftism in order to find and join it.

Obama’s college pals were often leftists, if not outright Marxists. Obie attended some of the Marxist “Socialist Scholars Conference” in NYC, probably while at Columbia.

His top aide, David Axelrod, was mentored by two hardcore Marxists, Don Rose (since the 1940’s by his own admission, Progressive Party, etc), and David Simon Canter, a long identified member of the CPUSA, a registered foreign agent for the Soviet Union (owned a periodical/book/translation business that sold/gave out Soviet propaganda in Chicago. His partner was longtime CPUSA member, who I’ve met, Leroy Wolins, a probably creator of Vietnam Veterans Against the War in Vietnam, and a leader of the cited CPUSA, Veterans for Peace (VFP), the original one).

Canter was a lawyer for a CPUSA dominated union, was a political kingmaker in Chicago (i.e. the election of leftist Mayor Harold Washington), and according to his son Marc, “knew Obama” (no other details provided).

Frank Marshall Davis was sent to organize and propagandize for the Communist Party of Hawaii by two Soviet operative, id. CPUSA member Paul Robeson (from Illinois), and Harry Bridges, probable NKVD agent, Australian CP and CPUSA member.

Among Obama’s Marxist/communist friends are/were Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn (Weathermen); Alice Palmer and her husband, CPUSA sympathizers; Dr. Quentin Young, id. CPUSA member and Obama’s personal physician, and father of “universal health insurance” for the CPUSA and Obama; Milton Cohen, another id. CPUSA member from Chicago; Timuel Black, a Chicago leftist; Valerie Jarrett (who knows where her loyalties lie, but there are some questions about her friends, as there are about Michele’s mother’s friends).

Vann Jones - Marxist revolutionary wannabe.
Anita Dunn - Mao admirer
Lisa Jackson - EPA, protégé of Carol Browner, member of the International Socialists
Robert McChesney - not necessarily a friend of Obama but one of the Marxist creators of “Net Neutrality” along with “The Nation” writer John Nichols.
John Kerry - illegally communicated with the No. Vietnamese and VC during the war, in Paris, on at least two occasions, possibly more. A leader of the VVAW, headed by Viet vet fraud Al Hubbard, a Marxist, and only left when the hardcore Maoist Marxists of Barry Romo and comrades took over VVAW in late 1972.
Hillary Clinton - worked for a CPUSA law firm on the New Haven Black Panther torture murder case of Alex Rackley, under CPUSA lawyers Charles R. Gary, Mal Burstein, and Robert Treuhaft (Jessica the Commie Mitford’s husband).
Hillary - fan of Marxist Saul Alinsky, who I have met.
Hillary - Yale Law School, where CPUSA legal beagle Thomas I. Emerson taught
Hillary - hired Castro supporter Johnnetta Cole for the Clinton transition team in 1992 and reportedly was going to have her nominated for Secy of Education until her communist past was revealed in conservative newspapers

Lots of reds around Obama and lots of Moslem covert radicals (Khalidi, Moslem Brotherhood connects imans, CAIR, ICNA, etc).

I think Obama swings both ways, and none of them are good for what is left of America.

70 posted on 03/04/2015 3:05:23 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Thanks for the info!

71 posted on 03/04/2015 3:08:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Personally, I think he is as Muslim as Karl Marx. As the communist he is, he probably believes that religion is the opiate of the masses. He has no soul or sense of values.
72 posted on 03/04/2015 3:40:43 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!"
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To: Robert357


73 posted on 03/04/2015 3:53:53 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; ConservativeMan55

The half sister Maya went to very expensive Barnard College in NY. I’ve wondered who paid for her education and also whether she quietly practices any religion, marxism or otherwise.

74 posted on 03/04/2015 10:20:33 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: ConservativeMan55

Ever hear the expression: “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer?”

The Sunni Muslim Brotherhood mujahideen are his friends. The Apocalyptic Khomeini and Heretical Shia Mullahs are his enemies.

But, Obama HATES JEWS most of all. Jew hatred is the common thread of the Koran as Salafists and Wahabists. Even though Salafists and Wahabbists don’t like each other - there is no daylight between them with regards to Jews.

BUT, and here’s the key difference.

It is the Iranian Regime whatsoever, between Iran continually calls for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” before the Zionist Movement, Iran had the largest Jewish coommunity in the Middle East (although Iran, aka Persia, is part of Asia). It goes all the way back to King Cyrus who released the Jews from Babylonian Captivity and ended the first, great Diaspora.

You said it yourself: Obama IS the Muslim Brotherhood. His family are Sunni. His closest friends are Sunni. His governmental associates are Muslim Brotherhood operatives. His military Commanders are Sunni. John Brennan, his State Department advisors converted to Sunni Islam. Even his colleagues like Rashid & Mona Khalidi, Edward Said, Ali Abumah, Huma Abadeen (leader of the Muslim Sisterhood), Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan (once big poobahs with the Nation of Islam cult converted to Sunni Islam in secret).

Obama’s education and rise to power was bought and paid for by the Saudi Kingdom. He gave his first international speech to the world from Al-Ahzar University in Cairo - the historical center of Islamic learning and Grand Central Station for Orthodox Sunni Islam. Cairo is also the birthplace for the Muslim Brotherhood - and even though the Ikhwan is Salafist and the Saudi Kingdom is Wahabbist, and there has been a history of animosity between the two strains: they are equally radical, equally fundamental, but even though Salafists are more mystical than pragmatic, they put aside their differences and pledge their full allegiance to the “ummah” - he body of all Muslims.

The other thing they all have in common is hatred of Jews - followed by a hatred of Christians. As they would say, “Today is Saturday. Tomorrow is Sunday.” The “Saturday” people are the Jews who worship on the Sabbath, and the “Sunday” people are the Christians who worship on the Lord’s Day.

With 80% of the Muslim World being Sunni - on the basis of that statistic alone, Obama would want to be with the majority while painting himself as the hero of the minority.

As for Taqiyya being a Shia-only phenomenon, the concept of “al-Taqiyya”is an integral part of Islam, and not just a Shi’ite invention. All sects of Islam dissimulate. Muhammed said, “War is deception” and while the Muslim World, the “Dar al-Islam” is the “World of Peace,” any non-Muslim, including Muslims from a different sect, are lumped together withall the nonbelievers, kafirs, infidels, Christians, Jews, Hindus, et al., are lumped into the “World of War.” The History of Islam consists of a constant state of warfare - ordered by the Prophet himself - until “The Whole World is Subdued and all will say, ‘There is no God but Allah’”

Taqiyya is a solemn duty of the Sunni. They have more methods of dissimulation than do the Shia.

Rejecting al-Taqiyya is rejecting the Qur’an (see

The Sunni Muslim Brotherhood are the unchallenged masters of dissimulation. If al-Taqiyya had never been invented, they would have invented it. The Muslim Brotherhood’s “Project” the plan outlined inb their secret document created in 1991, “An Explanatory Memorandum: On the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America,” that was submitted into evidence at the Holy Land Foundation trial - the largest, terrorist-funding trial in history for which the HLF was indicted for 188 counts diverting charitable collections to Hamas, a terrorist organization. This was the trial in which CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood front group, the “Council on American-Islamic Relations,” was named as an unindicted co-conspirator.

Obama is setting Iran up and he is trying to goad Israel into attacking it. But, Israel masy have some unlikely partners in that effort as Egypt, Jordan,
and Saudi Arabia are mobilizing their forces in case of Iranian-backed proxies, like Hezbollah, launching pre-emptrive strikes on their nations.

If Obama could take out both Iran and Israel, he would have achieved the ultimate goal of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood and the Turks who are vying for the leadership of a new Ottoman Empire. Iran and their proxy, Hezbollah, has caused far more deaths of Americans than all other Sunni (Al Qaeda) and the Palestinian Liberatrion Organization combined.

Make no mistake about it. Obama is solidly in the Muslim Brotherhood camp as their leader in the Western World. Check the record. No person has done more to enable the rise of Sunni Islam than has Obama. ISIS is Sunni, not Shi’ite. They are the combined Al Qaeda forces of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen.

Obama will know, exactly, where the centrifuges will be relocated and the storage facilities of their weapons-grade uranium.

Therefore, Obama can even create a false flag by engineering a nuclear “accident” that takes out half of Tehran’s leadership ot be quickly filled by Sunni fighters. Obama made surfe tnhat thge Iranian Peace Movement would be squashed. The Iran ian people -especially the students - want a Western-style democracy after 36 years of Sharia Hell on Earth. They would have achieved that had Bush still been President. They would have achieved that with McCain as President. ISIS would not exist if McCain had won. At least we know that. Amnesty is another story, but McCain does not have the invincible Cape of Black Skin that protects him against every indictment of criminality ever committed by anyone living inside this country in its 237-year history.

The only way to make that Magic Cape disappear and along with it, the millions of Race Cards waiting to be played by the Media and Leftwing Mafia who have stored their Weapons of Mass Discrimination in warehouses, is to make its wearer pick up and take his Golf Game of Thrones elsewhere.

75 posted on 03/27/2015 6:43:43 PM PDT by joenrogers
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To: ConservativeMan55

If that is the case God will kill America too.

Right now you are correct..and I do not see a good change towards defending Israel. We have been so asleep in our success that we have ignored our enemy in the country and have now made the coming war much more terrible.

As you know, God has his own

76 posted on 09/18/2015 3:04:12 PM PDT by aces
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To: jsanders2001

yep, you see clearly I think..we have taken things so lightly

77 posted on 09/18/2015 3:07:10 PM PDT by aces
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To: ConservativeMan55
I believe he is.

And anyone who covers their ass by pretending that he isn't, best not ask me for anything.
Because they are as guilty as he is.
78 posted on 09/18/2015 3:07:26 PM PDT by novemberslady
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And shame on everyone that keeps saying don't we have more important things to talk about...
In the end you're as guilty as they are.
79 posted on 09/18/2015 3:09:45 PM PDT by novemberslady
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