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The H-1B Visa
Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2015 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 03/29/2015 6:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

The libertarian-leaning me believes an American employer should be able to hire pretty much anyone he or she wants to hire. But the taxpaying me believes that if the federal government limits immigration yet creates a special visa program for highly skilled foreign workers with the assurance that the program will not cut into the wages or jobs of American workers, then Washington ought to keep its promise.

This month, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, held a congressional hearing on the H-1B visa program that eliminated any doubt that some corporations are gaming the system to the severe disadvantage of skilled workers. Last year the Center for Investigative Reporting reported on abuses of so-called "body shops" -- labor brokers who enlist foreign workers abroad, press them into exploitative contracts and cut them undersized checks as they do contract work for established tech concerns that may want to avert the bad publicity. Howard University public policy professor Ron Hira testified that Washington "inadvertently created a highly profitable business model" to bring in STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) professionals at cheaper wages.

The biggest, baddest star of the hearing turned out to be Southern California Edison. The utility plans to lay off 400 IT workers; another 100 workers are leaving voluntarily. What happens to the work? SCE has hired two labor brokers -- Infosys and Tata Consultancy Services -- to outsource most information technology work overseas, while 20 percent of the work will go to H-1B workers, according to the Los Angeles Times. The newspaper's Michael Hiltzik found that the utility paid its domestic IT specialists an average of $120,000, while Infosys and Tata pay recruits an average of $65,000 to $71,000. Infosys and Tata are, by the way, are among the largest beneficiaries of H-1B visas.

The story gets worse. In order to qualify for severance, SCE workers had to agree to train their replacements and to not criticize the utility in public. Asking to remain anonymous, former SCE employees sent Grassley letters in which they complained "they had to train their replacements -- for weeks and months -- knowing all along that they were going to lose their jobs to cheaper workers who didn't possess the skills they had," Grassley explained. "They said it was humiliating." (SCE declined Grassley's invitation to testify.)

Supporters of the H-1B program want to expand the cap on these visas at 85,000 so that Silicon Valley and other tech hot spots can attract "the best and the brightest." For his part, Hira testified that the lion's share of recipients are not the cream of the workforce, but more like "ordinary IT workers." As for the notion that there is a shortage of STEM workers, Hira added that if skilled workers were as much in demand as H-1B boosters suggest, SCE workers would have left for better jobs. Instead, they are training their replacements.

Rutgers Professor Hal Salzman has done extensive research on the STEM workforce and estimates that 10 to 15 percent of H-1B visas go to winners of a "talent search." He believes the government should accommodate such hires. But for the most part, the temporary jobs program exists to replace American workers at lower wages. He slammed the program as a "20 percent off sale" on hiring.

Bjorn Billhardt of Enspire Learning in Austin, Texas, came to America from Germany as an exchange student, qualified for an H-1B visa and now is a U.S. citizen. Speaking in favor of increasing the H-1B caps, Billhardt argued that he needs to hire the best individual possible to keep his 30-employee business competitive in a fierce international market. If Washington makes employers like him prove they cannot hire a qualified American worker, he argued, then that's a bureaucratic nightmare.

Still, Billhardt thought one reform mentioned during the hearing made great sense. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Illi., proclaimed, "I want to put the H-1B factories out of business." His remedy: a rule to prohibit firms with more than 50 employees from having more than 50 percent H-1B visa workers. Billhardt thought it was a grand idea. So do I.

This truly is an issue where left and right can meet. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka testified against the system -- which puts the labor leader on the same side as Grassley and Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala. For years, Grassley and Durbin have sponsored bipartisan legislation to end temporary worker visa abuses. While Americans think that the H-1B visa program requires U.S. firms to make a good-faith effort to hire an American, the law includes no such mandate. Grassley and Durbin want that requirement. Billhardt isn't warm to the idea, but it would match how Washington has sold these rules to the American people. The duo also wants to raise the H-1B-wage floor to make sure it doesn't pay to oust American workers for lower-paid alternatives.

According to the Department of Labor, the Immigration and Nationality Act requires that hiring a foreign worker "not adversely affect the wages and the working conditions of U.S. workers comparably employed." That is common sense. Americans don't learn skills and refine them so that they can pay taxes to bankroll a lottery that allows some employers to lay off workers and replace them with foreign workers at below-market wages. Whom does such a system serve?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aflcio; chuckgrassley; dickturbandurbin; h1b; immigration
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1 posted on 03/29/2015 6:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The libertarian-leaning me believes an American employer should be able to hire pretty much anyone he or she wants to hire.

Yeah, no. If you want to hire Indians, open a branch in India. In America, hire Americans.

2 posted on 03/29/2015 6:42:18 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Kaslin

Change H1-B awards to salary-based instead of lottery-based and then almost everyone would be happy except for a few people on Freerepublic.


3 posted on 03/29/2015 6:44:43 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Kaslin

A much better solution would be to base H1B visas on salary. The highest salaries would get priority for visas, and an H1B visa would be a permit to work in the US for 3 years, so H1B holders could change jobs with no penalty if they wished.

This would wreck the whole current business model, but that’s the idea.


4 posted on 03/29/2015 6:47:29 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: 9thLife

my bank do hire people in India who’s doing the server supports. and they get paid less... 15k per pereson...
so yeah... we had a round of layoffs in the states, one of us for 5 of them to do 24h/7d support.

that makes it even worse.


5 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:39 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: 9thLife

I agree the visa program is a mess.

But, hey Chuck, how about giving up that food-fuel ethanol catastrophe that you benefit from so extensively?

I guess if it ain’t your Ox, you don’t mind wearin’ the horns.

Crony Capitalism is rampant in DC.


6 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:42 AM PDT by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: 9thLife

In a perfect world, the employer should be free to hire whomever he wants that best fits the bill.

However, when government interference and inducement are included, free-enterprise and the freedoms and rights of citizens are often supplanted by political will.

All too often, the citizens’ protections such as employer certification of unsuccessful attempts to fill needs with citizens are fabricated or outright overlooked in favor of cheaper foreign workers. THAT process should be rigorous, stringent and DEMAND substantive proof before allowing it.

Personally, in my career I’ve had two H1-Bs and a student visa employee be put on me. None of them were innovative, diligent or successful in delivering what I needed. They were too concerned about becoming permanent residents with a pathway to citizenship. IOW, they lied and lied again about what they would do and wanted to do..


7 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Declare H1B to be racist slavery.


8 posted on 03/29/2015 6:53:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin
I'd much prefer qualified working people coming here than the current uncontrolled inrush of welfare cases and criminals.
Productive people add to the economy.
An H-1B immigrant already has a job before he comes here, he may take up a position, or one is created for him, but he produces, consumes and pay taxes and somewhere up or down the supply line, more jobs are created as a result.
It's not a problem.

9 posted on 03/29/2015 6:53:20 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin
How about whole we can this disgusting program. America for Americans. You want kids to study stem in college? Eliminate this program. Yes wages may go up a little in the short term but in the long term America is a stronger better nation.

NO OTHER COUNTRY ABUSES THEIR CITIZENS LIKE THIS!

10 posted on 03/29/2015 6:55:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gaffer
However, when government interference and inducement are included, free-enterprise and the freedoms and rights of citizens are often supplanted by political will.

Well said.

I should point out that I often work with H1B's in tech and they're hard working. Techs in NY do not qualify for overtime pay and are often told that they will not be paid at all over 40 hrs, but of course are expected to work. Yes, this happens, both to citizens and non-citizens -- but this is digression; the point is that they work hard and at times for no pay.

There are often cultural and communications issues but hands down they are more pleasant to work with than your average urban McDonald's employee.

11 posted on 03/29/2015 7:01:53 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: central_va
"How about whole we can this disgusting program. America for Americans. You want kids to study stem in college?"

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but, what is "whole" and what is "stem"?

12 posted on 03/29/2015 7:02:06 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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To: Paladin2
Declare H1B to be racist slavery.

If it weren't for double standards...

13 posted on 03/29/2015 7:02:32 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: 9thLife

Yes. I understand they can be agreeable and work hard (at least seemingly so). But I also have direct experience that they will drop you (company) like a bad habit, despite promises, should they encounter an opportunity to get what they’re really after.

I’m not talking about solder jockeys here. I’m talking degreed professionals that make promises in interviews and periodic reviews about what they’re willing to do and deliver on. In the end, it turned out they were just flat assed lying the whole time.


14 posted on 03/29/2015 7:07:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Noted. Opportunistic, gamers-of-the-system, shrewed. I get it.

It's a skill learned in the bazaar, I think.

LOL! Bwaaahaha! Many a truth are said in jest!

15 posted on 03/29/2015 7:10:47 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Gaffer
I’m not talking about solder jockeys here. I’m talking degreed professionals

Neither am I, so am I.

16 posted on 03/29/2015 7:12:26 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: 9thLife

I mistook your post then. A degreed engineer is not a “tech”.


17 posted on 03/29/2015 7:13:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
A degreed engineer is not a “tech”.

anyone who works in tech is a tech.

I didn't see the requirement that I wear a tuxedo to your party. But this sheds light on what makes some Americans unemployable.

18 posted on 03/29/2015 7:20:57 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: proxy_user

H-1B another gateway to Jihad. If you like cheap labor...go there.


19 posted on 03/29/2015 7:21:10 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: 9thLife

Not in accepted vernacular and practice.


20 posted on 03/29/2015 7:27:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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