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Republicans are quietly strategizing to delete gay marriage from the party's 2016 platform.
National Journal ^ | 03/29/2015 | Alex Roarty

Posted on 03/30/2015 7:21:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Paradox

“I agree, they should, its a losing issue, actually, its lost already. Public attitudes have changed, why tilt at this windmill, its a loser now.”

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”- John Adams

The “its ok if our country is an open sewer, as long as the checkbook balances” position is untenable, regardless of public opinion. Without a Judeo-Christian underpinning to our culture, our entire system of government is unworkable. If that is tilting at a windmill, so be it.


61 posted on 03/30/2015 3:22:19 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Not that I agree with how the liberals forced this through the courts. But they did, and there will be no battle left to have over homosexual marriage.”

If you believe that then you’ve already lost not only America but your families future as well.

Marriage as it was originally defined and practiced for tens of thousands of years is a thing so critical to culture that a country is doomed when it abandons and erases that legacy. It is far better to be in a tireless and persecuted minority on this issue than to be a popular and powerful majority. Simply because in the long run such a majority as a population has little to no future.


62 posted on 03/30/2015 6:04:56 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: SeekAndFind
Jeff Angelo

I'm sorry to say that twenty years ago I helped advance the political careers of a couple of these clowns, back when they were still pretending to be conservatives.

63 posted on 03/30/2015 6:08:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: concerned about politics

No they won’t.

The majority right here on FR will say “Well, at least we are not as bad as the DEMS!!!!”


64 posted on 03/30/2015 6:18:06 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It was to force them to concede that going neutral on gay marriage is critical to winning the White House.

"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of great moral crisis preserve their neutrality."

-- Dante

65 posted on 03/30/2015 6:23:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Paradox

“I agree, they should, its a losing issue, actually, its lost already. Public attitudes have changed, why tilt at this windmill, its a loser now.”

I think your looking at the wrong measure of victory. Your thinking about winning an election when you should be far more concerned about winning the race for cultural survival.

When meaningfully marriage becomes a losing issue so to does necessarily the family which depends upon it. That is like it or not precisely what has happened in every community where marriage was defined as exclusively about the feeling of its human members, rather than the commitment to children.

You don’t sustain or even go thou great pains to create a union on the basis of a feeling that already exist and is sustained and lost independently. Union’s exist for a separate more tangible propose all together and in the case of marriage that union was for children, just as it was for life.

But there is no natural or sustainable reason anyone should expect that two people of the same sex to produce children and thus be in any need for marriage. Thus marriage functionally is a man- woman affair by the laws of nature.

But of course as you have pointed out people have forgotten that fact driven by the same deceptive Hollywood and leftist entertainment and education industry for the last 100+ years. This original, and meaningful union has been all but written out of history leaving only a name that now belies its propose and history.

Frankly most people who get married today are liers and ministers need to point that out to them. If your ‘union’ is subject to divorce for no reason, and not about children & family till death do you part its not a marriage. Its just a fancy that is no better or improved by our recondition and acceptance than it was when you created it.

Simply put when a union exist on the basis of the feelings ‘love’ of its members then it needs no recognition, support, or acceptance by any other party. Only when a union is founded around something external such as children does external recognition and support make any difference. That is the propose of marriage, and the more we remind people of that the better our long term prospects as a civilization. We don’t need a majority to prevail here we simply have to be tireless in our adherence to the basic truth behind true marrage as to surive and out last the foolish ones who have abandoned the concept in all but name, and will as a result fall.

This is how we save our civilization not our party, becase in the end a party without a civilization isen’t really worth anything.


66 posted on 03/30/2015 6:42:08 PM PDT by Monorprise
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