Inspired by rfreedom4u's suggestion, try going into a Muslim-owned restaurant and ordering a meal while wearing a large amount of bacon-scented perfume.
Posted on 03/31/2015 8:56:24 AM PDT by MosesKnows
When I dine in an Indian restaurant, I find fish, poultry, lamb, and vegetable dishes on the menu but no beef dishes.
Do I have a right to demand a steak dinner in an Indian restaurant or a ham and swiss cheese sandwich on rye in a Jewish deli?
I was thinking of doing the same thing but I don’t live anywhere near any Muslim businesses.
I do remember some Muslim cab drivers tried to refuse service to anyone with alcohol and they were taken to court and lost. That might have been before Obama though.
I broke out my progressive decoder ring. It says that you have a right to beef in an Indian restaurant owned by Hindus or Christians. You do not have a right to ask for anything off menu in an Indian restaurant owned by Muslims. This has been decreed by DHS and regulations from the Deputate of Indian Restaurant Safety, which reports to the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
Reminds me of this:
Your Black Muslim Bakery was a bakery opened by Yusuf Bey in 1968 in Santa Barbara, California, and relocated to Oakland in 1971. A power broker at the center of a local community, it was held out as a model of African American economic self-sufficiency. However, it was later linked to widespread physical and sexual abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Black_Muslim_Bakery
Only if they are in the business of selling those things to everyone else.
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Faulty logic. It makes no difference whether or not they sell those things. If gays can claim discrimination when Christians won’t bake for them, then I can claim discrimination when I can’t get a perfectly legal steak or ham dinner at a halal or Jewish place of business.
How about a clothing store that doesn’t sell larger sizes?
“The bakery does not normally sell the product in question either.”
The problem is, in many of these cases, the bakery (or florist, etc) DOES normally sell the product in question.
Yes you have the right to ask for those foods. In response the observant Hindu or Jew has the right to say they don’t serve those foods. This is called polite discourse and you and I were no doubt raised to use polite discourse in dealing with each other.
Somehow the left thinks the moral high ground is above polite discourse. It isn’t.
You can get curried beef in a Pakistani restaurant...
It isn’t apt.
The bakery does normally sell the product in question (wedding cakes).
The Indian restaurant does not sell beef. It does not matter why.
The halal butcher shop does not sell pork. It does not matter why.
Now the refused party also has the right to stand out on my sidewalk and protest my practices and hurt my bottom line by steering potential customers away. But the refused party SHOULD NOT have the ability to seek the force of government to force me to change my service policies.
We lose because we fight these fights on their terms
You will likely get at least the last two of those items if not all three.
I’m sorry, but you didn’t explain how you “knew” the couple in your example was gay.
Did they dress and act like everyone else at the restaurant?
Really? If so, why would anyone object to them?
Or was the couple so - er - “flamboyant” that they offended other customers — and were easily identified?
Hopefully, you DO see the difference between these two cases.
IMHO, we should not buy into the theory that rejecting particular ACTIONS is the same, exact thing as rejecting the ACTORS themselves, which is alleged to be illegal.
As evidence of this, consider the statement that the florist sold flowers to one of the men for years — just not for a “same-sex” marriage.
And I think we should push back when we see a active persecution of specific individuals — in this case, the florist.
IMHO, the mean-spirited (bitchy?) persecution of that poor woman shown here is much more serious than the discrimination imagined (or wished for?) by the “happy couple”...
Inspired by rfreedom4u's suggestion, try going into a Muslim-owned restaurant and ordering a meal while wearing a large amount of bacon-scented perfume.
“It is apt. The bakery does not normally sell the product in question either.”
Uh, the bakery sells custom cakes for weddings. In fact, they had previously done a cake to celebrate the wedding of two dogs!
I am vegan baker. Can someone demand I make a cake in the shape of a pig with the logo "Pork, it does a body good"?
I am a book seller. I will order books if we do not carry them. I get an order list from one customer that is nothing but "artistic" books of photos of naked children.
Can I tell him to take his business elsewhere?
It isn’t an analogy I would choose to use. If they didn’t normally carry a particular item and they said, “this is what we have” (take it or leave it) there would be no equivalency. If they didn’t normally carry a particular item but offered special ordering options - but not to a particular customer - it could be interpreted as discrimination (not to me). The way I see it the analogy has too many flaws to be useful.
Let’s look at it another way.
There have been reports of muslim cab drivers who refuse to pick up passengers who have been drinking (but not drunk), or have animals (including service animals) even though there is no prohibition or company policy against either circumstance. The drivers were clearly discriminating. They haven’t been subjected to the same harassment and malicious prosecution that the Washington florist has. I think that this is a more apt analogy for this new reverse-discrimination.
“Uh, the bakery sells custom cakes for weddings. In fact, they had previously done a cake to celebrate the wedding of two dogs!”
Did they sell a cake for two men or two women?
I dont but I never hear those who get on TV and asked questions, like Pence, making that distinction.
Out of curiosity, can a pot-bellied pig be trained as a service animal?
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