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{NYC} East Village Explosion Might Have Followed Attempt to Hide Gas Siphoning
New York Times ^ | MARCH 31, 2015 | PATRICK McGEEHAN and AL BAKER

Posted on 04/01/2015 4:46:34 AM PDT by thackney

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To: 1_Rain_Drop
BTW, Gas in apartments is used only for cooking - oven and stove. Many tenants opt for electric stoves and microwave ovens nowadays. So tell me why would they need gas at all?

There is so much gibberish, and so many contradictions in your posts, it is clear that you are of no help in clearing anything up. By the way, tenants don't pay to replace stoves and refrigerators, anywhere in the U.S.

Why not tell us how the tenants upstairs were getting gas, after the city had the illegal connection removed last summer?

""Investigators have been trying to determine how the upstairs tenants obtained gas afterward ( after August of 2014). Mr. Curtis (her lawyer) did not shed any light on how those tenants received fuel for their stoves or water heaters.""

61 posted on 04/01/2015 8:53:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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Building 121 was RENOVATED.
An electric stove in an apartment does not need gas.
Apartments do not have water heaters.

The building’s boiler supplies heat and hot water to all apartments.

Tell me, if there was no gas then how did the sushi restaurant prepare their food? If they had an illegal connection then why weren’t they shut down.


62 posted on 04/01/2015 9:32:01 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Gibberish, I am master plumber and a plumbing contractor, do you really think that I don’t know that an electric heater needs gas? I am the man who does gas lines.

Are you now switching to saying that the apartments all had electric stoves, and 220 volt electricity for them?

The Sushi restaurant was legal, it was their gas line that she illegally tapped into.

“”The owner of Sushi Park, Hyeonil Kim, noted that an earlier siphoning scheme had been disrupted by Con Ed over the summer due to leaky hoses, leaving his restaurant without gas. Yet the residential tenants upstairs had their gas back almost immediately.
Investigators now believe that, possibly for more than a year, gas had been redirected from pipes coming into two of the buildings that were destroyed. They are looking into the possibility that the siphoning apparatus had been dismantled or somehow hidden from Con Edison’s inspectors on Thursday afternoon, then restored after they left.””


63 posted on 04/01/2015 9:45:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Of course that first sentence is meant to be electric stove, and ‘not’ needing gas.

Normally I wouldn’t bother with the correction, but with you, you probably would not be able to see that it was a meaningless mistype.

Why was the owner hiding so much, until it got people killed?

“”Like the residential tenant who spoke with the Times earlier this week, Kim said he was told by the landlord, Maria Hrynenko, to contact her with gas issues, not Con Ed. So when the manager of Sushi Park smelled rotten eggs last week, he called the landlord.””

Her lawyer admits that she didn’t call the gas company or the city, or 911.

“Ms. Hrynenko assured the manager that the matter would be resolved, Mr. Kim said. But when the gas odor persisted, the manager called Ms. Hrynenko again and she told him that she would send her son Michael to check it out, Mr. Kim said.
Still, the manager was worried enough about the potential buildup of gas that he walked to the front of the restaurant and opened the door. Just as he did, Mr. Kim said, the blast occurred, flinging the manager out into the street.”


64 posted on 04/01/2015 9:51:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
The only reason the building did not pass inspection this time was because the new pipe that was being installed was a bit off not allowing enough room for the new meter to be connected. All the plumber had to do after the inspection is to set the pipe at the correct distance and call for another inspection."

"She was improving the existing gas line. A one inch pipe to a two inch pipe. The building was receiving gas through the old one inch pipe which was still active during the inspection. That pipe was not turned off by the inspector. The new two inch pipe was not activated because it failed inspection due to a minor measurement"

With what permit was all this gas work you mention being done, since they didn't have a permit? and how was it failing "inspection", if there was no permit, and no inspection of the work?

"More chillingly, Department of Buildings records show the building did not have any new plumbing or gas work permits, and it's unclear who was working on the pipes at the time. "All we know is that there was no approval from D.O.B. to do any plumbing work in that building after November 2014,”

You are just making things up.

65 posted on 04/01/2015 10:08:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/nypd-investigators-searching-for-evidence-still-unable-to-reach-basement-of-east-village-building-that-exploded-1.10176330

"Con Edison inspectors had visited the site about an hour before the explosion and found that work done on a new gas meter wasn't up to code.

A new three-inch gas line at the building wasn't cleared for service and wasn't working, a Con Edison spokesman said, although a smaller one-inch line to service a first floor Japanese restaurant was functioning.

The utility spokesman Wednesday denied a statement by a law enforcement source to Newsday that evidence of gas line tampering at 121 Second Ave. was detected by Con Edison inspectors during the final inspection before the explosion.

Indications of tampering were "not evident to us," said utility spokesman Philip O'Brien.

If such evidence had been noticed, Con Edison would have shut down all gas service to the building immediately, O'Brien said.

The source said there was evidence of gas line tampering and specifically mentioned a pipe clamp. O'Brien said there was a "clasp" holding up the unused 3-inch main but said there was no evidence of tampering of that line inside the building.

A gas mechanic would have to turn on the gas line from outside the building line, he said.

66 posted on 04/01/2015 10:37:29 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Why did you ignore the real questions to post nothing?

You ignored posts 63,64, and 65, why is that?


67 posted on 04/01/2015 10:46:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

They looked around, found nothing going on, no danger, no tampering, and the line head was still LOCKED OFF.

Your post is useless.

“”30 minutes before the blast, Con Ed inspectors had visited the site and ensured that the pipe, called a head end, was locked. “As soon as the utility inspectors left,” the Times reports, “an attempt to resume the diversion of gas went awry, setting off the explosion.”””


68 posted on 04/01/2015 10:48:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

Q/ Did you read post 52? why is she shredding bags full of her records?
A/ She spoke to Hillary?


69 posted on 04/02/2015 5:30:06 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; CGASMIA68
BTW, I know that landlord. She's a very hard working lady. Worked very hard all her life. I also know the other three landlords whose buildings were damaged. Very nice people who bend over backward to please others. Mom-n-Pop people.

""Building owner might face manslaughter charge in NYC blast"".

It seems that the owner was instructing everyone to not report gas leaks, but to call her personally, in other words she seems to have been personally involved in concealing the problems.

""Two city officials tell ABC News investigators are now pursuing reports from tenants that they were told by building management to report gas problems to the landlord and not the energy company, Con Edison, or to 911.""
"" A tenant of 121 Second Avenue showed the Times a text message from the landlord instructing him to contact her with any gas issues""

""ABC reports that other tenants received the same instructions from the landlord as early as Thursday morning, before Con Ed was due on premises for an inspection, and noted that the requests "could be a key indicator that someone knew the gas piping might not be up to code.""

70 posted on 04/02/2015 9:44:45 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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