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Netanyahu to Obama: Iran framework threatens Israel's existence
Haaretz ^ | Apr. 3, 2015 | 2:21 AM | Barak Ravid

Posted on 04/02/2015 4:40:54 PM PDT by Dave346

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To: caww
I think this has much to do with using this deal to springboard to a Palestinian deal now....

As Bibi has said, there can be no Palestinian deal now.

The Palestinians aren't going to recognize Israel's right to exist and that's the end of that there initiative.

81 posted on 04/03/2015 9:30:27 PM PDT by okie01
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To: caww

(yep!!)

82 posted on 04/03/2015 9:42:23 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: caww; All
(Here's another Obama "poker" one:)

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83 posted on 04/03/2015 9:45:01 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: caww

All they have to do is miniaturize the warheads--with Russia's help.

84 posted on 04/03/2015 9:52:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (America's real drug problem: other people's money (the Commutist's opium addiction).)
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To: caww

he Iran deal is no deal. It has zero provisions to prevent Israel’s destruction from a nuclear attack. We don’t call him Zer0 for nothing.


85 posted on 04/03/2015 9:54:50 PM PDT by jonrick46 (America's real drug problem: other people's money (the Commutist's opium addiction).)
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To: okie01
...”The Palestinians aren't going to recognize Israel's right to exist and that's the end of that there initiative”...

Well of course they won't most of the ME countries aren't planning to any time in the near future either. That does not mean Obama won't push hard for it...I say this because...

The deal with Iran is NOT a deal....but they are promoting it as so...both Obama and the Iranians are doing so. As if there is a deal.

...So he could do likewise with the Palestinians...Obama’s using strong arm tactics right out of Chicago land...and a lot of smoke and mirrors...and he's got leverage to manipulate the ME and is doing just that..... HE does not have any concern over the consequences of his moves...only that it looks good for him before he leaves office.

Iran has already declared they are arming the Gaza strip and no doubt other places surrounding Israel...and Egypt's having their hands full in the Sinai.

So yes Obama can play his game of deception because the people want to believe these are done deals whether they are in reality or not. All that matters to him is what the ME citizens think, and they are very easily mis-led. He really doesn't care what this nation thinks....it's never been about us except to tear us down.

86 posted on 04/03/2015 10:25:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: musicman

Oh that’s a really good one too....love the teleprompter! LOLOLOL...and so true!


87 posted on 04/03/2015 10:28:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: jonrick46
Interesting you posting that map as I was just looking at another one similar a short time ago on which countries have nuclear weaponized armament.

Interesting factoid is during the Cuban Missile Crisis Kennedy did not know that the Russian Missiles in Cuba were Nuclear 'until it was over'. So he was making decisions without that knowledge. I believe there were six or so of them in Cuba.....the Russians even shared how they shipped them and what it took to get them there.

Recalling now that BIBI said Iran could already hit Israel...that Iran wants Nuclear to hit the US...I believe he's right.

No matter how this is played over there...it's an extremely dangerous game these leaders are determined to play with no regard for the outcome it seems.

88 posted on 04/03/2015 10:38:00 PM PDT by caww
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One nuclear EMP weapon set off over the East Coast would collapse the United States. Our nation would be done. Such a weapon has never been used on a population. We have no conception of what it would do.

There are some who say making an EMP weapon work is a difficult task. People who say that don’t know the technology. You ever wonder why we don’t test our inventory of nuclear weapons to see if they will work. We do test. We put a very small sample of he nuclear material in a machine that tests its potency with software that runs a computer simulation of the material going off in a chain reaction. They can also use the computer to make sure the EMP weapon works.

When they say, “Death to America!” they mean it.


89 posted on 04/03/2015 11:53:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (America's real drug problem: other people's money (the Commutist's opium addiction).)
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The EMP Commission reported in 08... estimated within 12 months of a nationwide blackout, up to 90% of the U.S. population could possibly perish from starvation, disease and societal breakdown...and that was 7 yrs. ago...so you know it’s been updated since then.

In June 2013, Rep. Franks and Rep.Clark introduced the ‘Secure High-voltage Infrastructure for Electricity from Lethal Damage, or Shield, Act’..... the legislation is stalled in the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

In October 2013, Rep. Franks and Rep. Sessions introduced the ‘Critical Infrastructure Protection Act’....which directs the Department of Homeland Security to adopt a new National Planning Scenario focused on federal, state and local emergency planning, training and resource allocation for survival and recovery from an EMP catastrophe.... Yet this important legislation hasn’t come to a vote either.

(exerts WSJ)

So just as you say until there’s a priority given to this threat we really are sitting targets.

I do not understand the dynamics of this well but enough to know from reading that even Korea has this capability. So it wouldn’t be a stretch to imagine the ME nations aren’t interested in this or already have blueprints for.

Very interesting reading how we test EMP’S.....I didn;t know that.


90 posted on 04/04/2015 2:42:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: Dave346
"a deal based on this framework will threaten Israel's existence."

The perception of a grave threat is grounds for pre-emptive self defense.

91 posted on 04/05/2015 8:13:37 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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EMP: The New Global Warming?

fwiw.

92 posted on 04/05/2015 8:14:59 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: caww

Hell, who will remember what he said now in several months. The media won’t hold him to it.


93 posted on 04/05/2015 9:59:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: caww

Excellent points. I agree, this is right on target.


94 posted on 04/05/2015 10:01:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: SkyPilot

The Jews have a history of getting it wrong, huh.


95 posted on 04/05/2015 11:31:23 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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....”Excellent points. I agree, this is right on target”....

I thought so as well....hopeful others might link to it as it does reveal the Iran Deal is not going to work....but I think perhaps it’s meant not to?


96 posted on 04/05/2015 4:29:25 PM PDT by caww
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Yeah, we’ll IMO Obama wants more Islamic nations to have the bomb. He’s an idiot, but what the hey..., the heart wants what the heart wants. He is so in love with the idea that the only thing standing in the way of world domination by Islam is the United States, that he’s liable to do almost anything.


97 posted on 04/05/2015 8:53:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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(OBM)....”He is so in love with the idea that the only thing standing in the way of world domination by Islam is the United States, ..that he’s liable to do almost anything.”....

I prefer saying he IS defiantly doing everything to make that happen. But not because it's Islam, but because it's another group of people the politicians on the world stage ‘foolishly believe’ they can and will manipulate to their Global Governance...and that will be only for a short time.....long enough for the Islamic nations to position themselves ....and then.....

98 posted on 04/05/2015 9:28:15 PM PDT by caww
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I agree that he is doing everything in his power. No doubt about it...

I think the people of the Western Nations scared the leaders of Western Nations something fierce.

They were becoming too enlightened. This had to be stopped in order to control them.

And so they have implemented policies to dominate the populace, silence their good will, and put them into servitude as cash cows for the centuries to come.

We are seeing a new dark ages implemented IMO.

This isn’t enlightenment. It’s total domination by the elite few.


99 posted on 04/05/2015 9:35:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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