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Carly Fiorina blames liberal environmentalists for Calif. water crisis
Wasington Times ^ | April 6, 2015 | Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 04/09/2015 8:18:34 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: Dilbert San Diego

My understanding is that two new ones are being designed right now, but I cannot remember where they are to be built. All I know for sure is that it’s not California. That would have been easy to remember, just because of the shock it would have been to my system.


21 posted on 04/09/2015 10:06:03 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Basic facts of life are about to nail California. There can be no life without water.


22 posted on 04/09/2015 10:41:39 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Rummyfan; COUNTrecount; Nifster; jacknhoo
"What can you say other than she's right"

You can say "be more specific".

She can make that generalized statement and be semi-correct, but its not accurate.

First off, there are already 1400 dams in CA so all of the best/better sites already have dams.

Which means new capacity is going to have a higher cost benefit ratio, and funding is going to be more difficult. Keep in mind that Prop 13 makes it harder to raise money and the feds don't lavish money on water projects like they used to(blame or praise Reagan for that).

If you combine higher cost, funding problems, and enviro opposition, then you have public opinion against it. But public opinion can change as the degree of the problem gets worse. So 3 years ago they scoffed at a project, but today the situation is worse so it seems more reasonable now.

And when you say enviro opposition or public opposition you need to recognize that there are projects that were rejected many, many decades ago before the enviro movement became strong so they are not likely to be approved today. It is not likely that Ah Pah dam or Auburn dam will be built in CA. Nor is likely Bridge Canyon dam on the Colorado River will be built because it would flood the Grand Canyon.

What else?

They already raised the dam height on Los Vaqueros and are talking about raising it again, but nobody wants to fund it. Maybe Congress?

The voters approved $7.5 billion last Nov that would partially fund 3 projects but they need additional money.

Temperance Flat dam got 2.7 billion of that and it is a new dam but an old location that will flood over two older dams/lakes.

Sites reservoir also got some of the money but it is not a dam. Putting in dikes for off stream water storage.

The third project is raising Shasta dam and it is opposed by enviros, tribes, and USFWS. Plus, it increases capacity by only 14 percent for a lot of money.

When they talk about putting the water to its highest beneficial use, I have a hard time seeing the growing of hay for export as beneficial use.

There are a lot of drier places around the world using drip irrigation that needs to be considered by growers in CA. But, because of the water rights laws in CA, the growers will always prefer more and bigger dams because those will be paid for by taxpayers and rate payers

I am always interested in hearing more about these projects being blocked by the enviros.

The voters can always try get rid of the Endangered Species Act and Clean Water act signed into law by a GOP Prez and/or the California Environmental Quality Act of 1968 signed into law by Guv Reagan

23 posted on 04/09/2015 11:00:10 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: COUNTrecount

I wonder how long it would take to build 20 4th generation nuclear powered desalinization plants - if they really wanted to.

Or a canal diverting water from the Colombia River through Oregon into California.

Or to free up water use laws of the Sacramento Delta.


24 posted on 04/09/2015 11:47:34 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: COUNTrecount

I really like Fiorina’s speaking skills. She is a shark cruising for her next meal. Is she really pro- choice? I hope she gets in just to dog Hillary!


25 posted on 04/09/2015 12:28:52 PM PDT by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: Pecos

I read Israel is building desalinization plants.


26 posted on 04/09/2015 12:32:01 PM PDT by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: Michael.SF.
:The Carlsbad plant is about 70% complete."

The Environuts are waiting for the right time to ruin the project.

27 posted on 04/09/2015 12:53:33 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon

How many Freepers are getting this spacing problem? I use Chrome with AdBlocker.


28 posted on 04/09/2015 12:55:10 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: COUNTrecount

She’s got guts, I’ll give her that.


29 posted on 04/09/2015 12:56:28 PM PDT by tioga
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Waterfox an Ad Blocker... no spacing problems


30 posted on 04/09/2015 12:58:03 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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