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US special ops forces skeptical women can do their job
Pioneer Press ^ | 4-6-15 | Lolita C. Baldor

Posted on 04/10/2015 6:23:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Surveys find that men in U.S. special operations forces do not believe women can meet the physical and mental demands of their commando jobs, and they fear the Pentagon will lower standards to integrate women into their elite units, according to interviews and documents obtained by The Associated Press. Studies that surveyed personnel found "major misconceptions" within special operations about whether women should be brought into the male-only jobs. They also revealed concerns that department leaders would "capitulate to political pressure, allowing erosion of training standards," according to one document. Some of those concerns were not limited to men, researchers found, but also were found among women in special operations jobs. Dan Bland, force management director for U.S. Special Operations Command, told the AP that the survey results have "already driven us to do some different things in terms of educating the force."

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1 posted on 04/10/2015 6:23:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

I think the Marines just demonstrated that women aren’t cut out for intensive combat roles.


2 posted on 04/10/2015 6:24:39 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Women can indeed do special ops jobs.

But then you could hardly be calling them women at all.


3 posted on 04/10/2015 6:24:47 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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I think it's wrong to say that "women" couldn't be combat soldiers any more than you could say that all men could make good combat soldiers. I served with women who could whip the average man on the street.

I'm sure the women are out there.  They just haven't shown up yet.

 

 

 

4 posted on 04/10/2015 6:35:38 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: TurboZamboni

They can’t. Period.


5 posted on 04/10/2015 6:37:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Candor7

Women may be able to perform certain aspects of special ops. What makes special ops what they are, is each can fill any number of roles and acquit themselves well.


6 posted on 04/10/2015 6:39:24 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Can they make sammiches?


7 posted on 04/10/2015 6:43:13 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: TurboZamboni

Women don’t belong in combat. Women don’t belong on submarines with men. Woman don’t belong in special ops.

Liberals want to make the issue about equality. It isn’t about equality. Male and female were not intended to be equal and they aren’t.


8 posted on 04/10/2015 6:48:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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As much as I like and respect FReeperettes, and women in general, in combat situations....


9 posted on 04/10/2015 6:50:34 AM PDT by PROCON (President Reagan, I truly miss your Patriotism, Love of Country and Leadership.)
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To: TurboZamboni

“already driven us to do some different things in terms of educating the force.” Translation: Either you accept women or get out. Commanders, if women don’t get into your units, it will reflect on your evaluation reports. Now, everyone is educated.


10 posted on 04/10/2015 6:51:11 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: MNnice

Vasquez-Jeanette Goldstein


11 posted on 04/10/2015 6:51:42 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Resolute Conservative

The big messy kind you can only eat over the sink.


12 posted on 04/10/2015 6:54:23 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: TurboZamboni
Special Operations is essentially a men's team sport. In that vein, the physical demands of training for every type of mission (make no mistake, you train for every type), is beyond the human female's physical and quite possibly emotional mindset.

The Layman's Answer that regular "UNINITIATED" people can understand is - The NFL, MLB, or MBA are all Team Sports - there are no women and there is no ban on Women, they are just not able to compete at the highest level. Special Operations warriors are the ultimate team players requiring a certain mindset, passion and physical capacities.

If women want to be channeled into something special, try the NSA or CIA where the physical demands and the skill set women posses (deception) can serve them well in stalking their prey.

Finally, in Special Ops not all men fit on every team and each one's psychological profile and/or skill set will determine who is matched up for missions. Not everyone is interchangeable even among the best of the best

13 posted on 04/10/2015 6:54:39 AM PDT by Jumper
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Studies that surveyed personnel found "major misconceptions" within special operations about whether women should be brought into the male-only jobs.

Right. The guys who do the job now are suffering from "major misconceptions." I guess its because they didn't take the Feminist Studies courses in college that the media took.

14 posted on 04/10/2015 6:57:14 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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Surveys find that men in U.S. special operations forces do not believe women can meet the physical and mental demands of their commando jobs,.....................

All you have to do is see in the real world how many women are playing professional football, basketball and baseball that pays millions to individuals, for performance and see how many women make those teams. - Tom.

15 posted on 04/10/2015 6:58:46 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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That would largely depend on”The Job”???


16 posted on 04/10/2015 7:00:24 AM PDT by bandleader
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But the vaginocracy has determined that there will be women in Spec Ops. For now they will be content to wash out a few, and not change the standards. Then it will be the next “war on Women/glass ceiling to be broken the training standard will be reduced and voila! , we have women Marine Infantry officers etc.

No matter that people will needlessly die because of them...


17 posted on 04/10/2015 7:03:21 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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US special ops forces skeptical women can do their job

Sorry to get off topic, but that headline sure had problems. At first glance, I thought it was 'US special ops 'forcing' skeptical women. Perhaps it should have read,"US Special OPS Forces DOUBT Women Can Do Their Jobs."

I know it's a small thing and I am putting on my flame retardant suit.

18 posted on 04/10/2015 7:07:21 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: TurboZamboni

Simple solution is to make it an ALL female unit. Males rely on them only in the minimal way, if at all—firepower.


19 posted on 04/10/2015 7:08:01 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It is Marxist ideology-—radical egalitarianism. They need to control culture to condition the little children to “believe” that woman are exactly the same to destroy all Natural instincts and “normalcy” in little children.

Children need to “see” males and females being interchangeable-—to see women being in police jobs-—carrying the guns-—men training to kill women to destroy the nurturing and protecting instincts in the girls and boys respectively.

Worldview of individualism and Christianity has to be destroyed to destroy the emotional formation of little children—to make them emotional cripples (put them into institutions and destroy the Natural family——so they only have access to artificial worlds where Up is Down and (as Fichte stated in 1810), children will be made to believe “snow is black”-—so they will believe in the Big Lies of Marxism and be “happy slaves” of the State.

Individuality, Christian Ethics, and Autonomy are learned only within the Natural Family with loving role models of both sexes.

Like the harem boys of Afghanistan-—they will be irrational, herded animals even as adults. They are fixated in an immature, irrational age and will be incapable of ever being a normal independent human being.


20 posted on 04/10/2015 7:13:42 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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