Posted on 04/11/2015 6:23:50 AM PDT by Jacquerie
It’s a pity the Russians didn’t enforce the constitution they had.
The Soviet Constitution shared more than a few similarities with the US constitution. The rights to property, private correspondence, freedom of religion & conscience, equality before the law, and the right to earn/keep earnings and to leave inheritances are there.
All considered, it wasn’t bad for peoples who had only known Mongol hordes and Czars for the past thousand years.
Despite these guarantees, the Soviet Union was a slave state from its inception. How could oppression have lived side-by-side recognized assurances of so many personal rights?
Slavery was certain because the Soviet system lacked institutions designed to secure liberty.
Similar to post-1913 American governance, the Soviet constitution set up internal contradictions. While it guaranteed certain rights and free will, the Soviet constitution purposely neglected to provide governing institutions to secure those rights.
At least history provided the Russians with an excuse.
History doesn’t leave Americans such an easy out. The self-inflicted wound of the 17th Amendment destroyed the Framers' careful structure of freedom. In 102 years we morphed from the freest nation on earth to one on the cusp of hard tyranny.
Oh, and the Soviet Union had elections too.
Excuse me, we are to compare a constitution that never worked, with one that did (for a while, at least)?
That would also eliminate the IRS=KGB. And Freedom would reign, THE PEOPLE would be in charge and jobs would skyrocket....
Sorry, the russians are not my people.
The Soviet Constitution shared more than a few similarities with the US constitution. The rights to property, private correspondence, freedom of religion & conscience, equality before the law, and the right to earn/keep earnings and to leave inheritances are there.
Riiiiight!
Oh, they enforced it, all the way to Gulags.
That's what Hussein is doing to US.
What property? Government owned EVERYTHING!
Private correspondence? 100% censorship of mail and phones. (If there were any)
Freedom of religion and conscience? Just ask destroyed Ukrainian Church and Sacharov's "conscience". "Freedom" in Gulags in Siberia.
awww, fuggetaboutit. Just got out of Putin's "Lie to the world" school???
Chapter 2:
Article 3. Its fundamental aim being abolition of all exploitation of man by man, complete elimination of the division of society into classes, merciless suppression of the exploiters, socialist organization of society, and victory of socialism in all countries, the Third All-Russia Congress of Soviets of Workers', Soldiers' and Peasants' Deputies further resolves:
Pursuant to the socialization of land, private land ownership is hereby abolished, and all land is proclaimed the property of the entire people and turned over to the working people without any redemption, on the principles of egalitarian land tenure.
All forests, mineral wealth and waters of national importance, as well as all live and dead stock, model estates and agricultural enterprises are proclaimed the property of the nation.
The Soviet laws on workers' control and on the Supreme Economic Council are hereby confirmed in order to guarantee the power of the working people over the exploiters and as a first step towards the complete conversion of factories, mines, railways and other means of production and transportation into the property of the Soviet Workers' and Peasants' Republic.
The Third Congress of Soviets regards as a first blow at international banking, financial capital, the Soviet law on the annulment of loans negotiated by the governments of the tsar, the landlords and the bourgeoisie and expresses confidence that Soviet power will be advancing steadfastly along this road until the complete victory of an international workers' uprising against the rule of capital.
To ensure the sovereign power of the working people and to rule out any possibility of restoration of the power of the exploiters, the arming of the working people, the creation of a socialist Red Army of workers and peasants, and the complete disarming of the propertied classes are hereby decreed.
A number of posters here have gone full retard.
—Under the original provisions of the Constitution, senators were elected by state legislatures; this was intended to prevent the federal government from indirectly absconding with the powers and funds of the states—
The foresight of the Founders was nothing short of amazing. Maybe it’s because they had reverence for God.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
29. Discredit the American Constitution...
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers…
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
40. Discredit the family as an institution.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
DISMANTLE/DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic. DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic.
6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…
9. The management of a great funded debt and a extensive system of taxes will afford a plea, not to be neglected, for establishment of a great incorporated bank. the use of such a machine is well understood. If the Constitution, according to its fair meaning, should not authorize it, so much the better. Push it through by a forced meaning and you will get in the bargain an admirable precedent for future misconstructions.
11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks.
http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm
DISMANTLE/DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic. DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic.
It’s easy to…
live - free - republic
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
29. Discredit the American Constitution...
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers…
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
40. Discredit the family as an institution.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
Soungs like the Democats.
My reference was the 1977 Soviet Constitution.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Democrats are national socialists. DEPOPULATE national socialists from the body politic.
Oh. Wait.
That's why they put in the Tenth Amendment. It's up to us, the people, who are expected to be the final physical barrier against such.
James Madison wasn't all that supportive of a Bill of Rights, because he had seen the VA legislature get around the VA Declaration of Rights. He did indeed regard them as parchment barriers. He was right. Few of our constitutional rights are in force.
Madison regarded division of power as our best security.
Our post-17th Amendment history proves that the horizontal separation of powers between the congress, prez, and courts is insufficient.
It why the first line of freedom's defense was the vertical division of power, between the states and the government they created.
YEs. “Hunt for Red October” - one of my favorite films.
“The Red October has escaped from its pursuers and has safely made its way into the Penobscot River in the state of Maine. As the submarine, now surfaced, glides upriver, Ryan and Ramius are outside riding at the top of the submarine. It is night.”
https://jmmnewaov2.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/buckaroo/
Fiction based on fact? Clancy knew where the skeletons rattled - had deep contacts... was ‘taken out?” Like Breitbart/Walker?
Well, to be fair, there was a vertical separation of powers too. (It's just that by making the Senate a sort of super house-of-representatives we stripped States-as-institutions from the federal government.)
(That and the frighteningly pervasive view that the federal government is, in all cases, superior to the States.)
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