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It’s not red state vs blue state. It’s city vs country
Hotair ^ | 04/11/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/11/2015 12:31:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

No, it’s sane vs. insane.


21 posted on 04/11/2015 1:08:58 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably, actually must be somehow.
Their kids on the school bus are proud to tell other kids they get free breakfast and lunch. They get all their food on welfare because my teen oldest boy works as a cashier so we know. One daughter was telling the neighborhood kids that her dad signed up for college but does not go but got a pick up truck,. Not sure how that works. The house they have rented has gone to the worst looking house in the neighborhood. Junk outside, windows dirty, blinds all broke for their dog and all they ever do is sit outside smoking.

When they first moved here they kept calling the Sheriff dept about they are being racially harassed in their words “ I am white married to a black guy living in the south”


22 posted on 04/11/2015 1:11:17 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed


23 posted on 04/11/2015 1:11:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Publius

It’s because it’s all been orchestrated and corrupt to fit the design. The only fair way to to count one vote for each voter. Whoever gets the majority of those votes wins.

It’s simple, basic and extremely hard to manipulate, sway or corrupt.

It’s why we don’t have that system.


24 posted on 04/11/2015 1:22:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: manc
We don't have to pander, there are some major points of agreement that smart republicans could reach out on.

More African-Americans Support Carrying Legal Guns For Self-Defense

The reason Reagan did so well is because he actually did speak about bring all Americans to a higher level.

Ronald Reagan Presidential Nomination Acceptance Speech - 7/17/1980
25 posted on 04/11/2015 1:24:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: dragnet2
You're suggesting electing the president by direct popular vote?

James Wilson suggested that at the Constitutional Convention. He couldn't sell it to Madison or Hamilton, so he invented the Electoral College instead.

26 posted on 04/11/2015 1:25:10 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: cripplecreek

Meanwhile, several states have legislation which would afford their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular election without regard to who actually wins the vote in the state itself!


27 posted on 04/11/2015 1:25:14 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: dragnet2

South too... Just a little further...


28 posted on 04/11/2015 1:26:51 PM PDT by DB
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To: Personal Responsibility

When the democrats were in control of Michigan they were pushing the interstate voting compact. Fortunately its dead meat here now.


29 posted on 04/11/2015 1:27:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: dragnet2

America would have become socialist 70 years ago with direct election of the president. In one way, you are correct; you can’t cheat an honest electorate or ultimately protect people from themselves.


30 posted on 04/11/2015 1:33:02 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SeekAndFind
This article is a bit simplistic, especially with the New York example.

The fading cities of upstate New York are relics of an age when those locations were actually important in industry. Cities like Buffalo, Rochester and Binghamton became industrial hubs because they could supply water for industrial processes and were located along navigable waterways and/or major railroads.

Once those assets were no longer necessary to support industry (access to cheap electricity and major ports is more important to most industries today), a lot of those cities really lost the "advantage of place" they once had. It's a scene you see repeated all over the Northeast and through the Rust Belt states.

31 posted on 04/11/2015 1:43:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: dragnet2

Agree with that; my town is about 87% conservative but we are overwhelmed by the big cities around us. We are in California, but Sacto, SanFran and LA are the big wellfare districts with the votes.


32 posted on 04/11/2015 1:52:14 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not. It is constitutionalist versus progressive.

If that predominates city v country, fine, but it is stereotyping.


33 posted on 04/11/2015 1:52:42 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Publius
Beat me to it.

If Your State is a Mess . . .

34 posted on 04/11/2015 1:54:02 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: dragnet2
Only Veterans, property owners, business owners should be allowed to vote!
35 posted on 04/11/2015 1:59:15 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: cripplecreek
Federal Senatorial candidates are chosen and groomed in the Blue areas.

Red areas get to vote for one of the chosen.

JMHo

36 posted on 04/11/2015 2:07:45 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The Civil War was similarly arguably state versus country.

But I also think that citizens would like to make the Constitution work if they were brought up to speed on what it’s supposed to do; divide state and federal government powers, the states, not the constitutionally humbled feds, having the lion’s share of government power to serve the people.


37 posted on 04/11/2015 2:17:53 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: cripplecreek
I've been thinking about Detroit. Lots of cheap real estate, it seems. I also like cities that are on navigable water. I'd just be afraid of being the only one to do it. (Winter would be rough, too, but maybe that could work to our advantage by freezing the hippies/bums out.) On the count of 3, everybody move to Detroit and register to vote! 1, 2,...

Seriously, conservatives need to find a way to thrive in the cities. We may have to establish our own neighborhoods in every metropolitan area.

38 posted on 04/11/2015 3:13:10 PM PDT by LT Brass Bancroft
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To: LT Brass Bancroft

There are big changes going on in Detroit. Downtown is booming mostly due to big money like Dan Gilbert and Quicken and the hipsters who have a libertarian bent. Lots of construction going on after the creditors got prime real estate as part of their bankruptcy settlement.

A while back I watched a Detroit chamber of commerce conference online and a lot of the outside business interests were talking about the rising cost of doing business elsewhere VS Detroit. They’re also concerned that many other cities are heading down the same path that got Detroit to where it is. They seemed to think that Detroit will be in much better shape in the future than many other cities.

The closer to downtown the better it is.


39 posted on 04/11/2015 3:34:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: dragnet2

Every major city is THE cancer that sucks the life-blood from surrounding areas. It needs to change! By district or even county would be a good start.


40 posted on 04/11/2015 3:49:40 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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