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The Killing in South Carolina: Why was Walter Scott running away after a traffic stop?
Townhall ^ | 04/14/2015 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 04/14/2015 11:41:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Why was Walter Scott running away from a policeman who tried to stop him for a broken taillight? The media are trying to make a South Carolina policeman's killing of a black man, Walter Scott, another sensational case of racism, but the media have missed the point of the tragedy.

The problem wasn't racism, or even dangerous driving or stolen property. It was caused by the obnoxious anti-father rulings of the family courts and Scott's fear that he would be returned to debtor's prison. Scott had already been jailed three times for failure to pay child support, and he didn't want to be sent to prison again.

Debtors' prisons were common in England in the colonial period. You can read about them in the writings of Charles Dickens, who wrote from first-hand knowledge; his own father spent time in a debtor's prison.

We kicked out British rule by the American Revolution and abolished some of its trappings, such as royalty and its titles, primogeniture and bowing to our top national official. We thought we abolished debtor's prisons even before we abolished slavery, but they continue to exist today to punish men who are too poor to pay what is falsely labeled "child support."

We say "falsely" because the money collected from the poor guy usually doesn't go to his kid or her mother. It just supports the welfare-state bureaucracy.

Of course, it wasn't wise to try to outrun the policeman's gun, but this sad event should make us reevaluate the policy of repeatedly sending a penniless man to jail for failure to pay so-called child support.

These guys don't have the money to hire a defense lawyer, which they should be given when jail is the cost of losing the case.

When corporations can't pay their debts, they can take bankruptcy, which means they pay off their debts for pennies on the dollar over many years. But a man can never get an alleged "child support" debt forgiven or reduced, even if he is out of a job, penniless, homeless, medically incapacitated, incarcerated (justly or unjustly), can't afford a lawyer, serving in our Armed Forces overseas, isn't the father or never owed the money in the first place.

The reason "child-support" debt can never be reduced by the court is the Bradley Amendment, named after a Democratic senator from New Jersey and one-time presidential candidate. That law should be repealed.

Fifteen years ago, a family court judge threw Scott in jail because he hadn't made his child support payments on time, and that meant he lost his $35,000-a-year job at a film company, "the best job (he) ever had." He then found some odd jobs but couldn't make enough money to make the support payments the government demanded.

The whole idea that a poor man is expected to support two households, including one with a child he never sees that may not even be his, is contrary to common sense and to all human experience. In too many cases, DNA investigations revealed that the poor guy is not the father of the kid for whom he is ordered to pay child support.

Scott seemed to turn a corner, but after making a couple of payments, he fell behind again and was sent back to jail. He said, "This whole time in jail, my child support is still going up."

Walter Scott's older brother, Anthony Scott, told the Charleston Post and Courier, "Everybody knows why he ran away." A bench warrant had been issued for his arrest for failure to pay enough child support.

A survey of county jails in South Carolina found that at least 1 out of every 8 incarcerated people is there for not paying so-called child support. All this imprisonment is imposed without any jury trial, due process or the benefit of a lawyer to defend the guy.

According to CUNY Law School Professor Ann Cammett, an expert on incarcerated parents who owe child support, "We have zero evidence that it works. If the goal of the child support system is to get support for children, parents can't do that if they're incarcerated."

One case on this issue went to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011, but it didn't produce much relief. Michael Turner of South Carolina argued that his constitutional rights had been violated because he didn't have a lawyer at his hearing, even though jail was the penalty if he lost. The Court ordered some minimal "procedural safeguards," but didn't tackle the issue of giving a father the fundamental right of due process before sending him to jail.

We hope Walter Scott's death may help some dads in the future who are unfairly treated by the family courts, not given a lawyer, denied due process and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: killing; police; southcarolina; walterscott; waronmen
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1 posted on 04/14/2015 11:41:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

To see what was on the other side?

Seriously, this cop needs to be tried and found guilty..


2 posted on 04/14/2015 11:44:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberal democrat politics is to blame.


3 posted on 04/14/2015 11:45:58 AM PDT by exnavy (Freedom is not free.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I feel stupid- I did not know that is the USA we through people in Jail for missed Child support.
4 posted on 04/14/2015 11:46:01 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact is, imprisoning these men on a judge’s order alone is simply unconstitutional. If the offense he committed deserves jail time, then it is a criminal matter, whether we call it that or not, and we are guaranteed a trial by jury for all criminal offenses under the 6th amendment.


5 posted on 04/14/2015 11:46:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve got to hand it to Phyllis Schlafly for taking on an issue which few people dare. In the eyes of the feminist dominated law, men are automatically guilty by reason of having a penis, even if they haven’t poked it anywhere inappropriate.


6 posted on 04/14/2015 11:48:43 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vendome
Seriously, this cop needs to be tried and found guilty..

Guilty of what is the question. There is no way on GOD's earth he gets convicted to murder for which is charge. I thought this well before Geraldo's opinion on the matter. He they should plead this to manslaughter and if the suspect did fire the taser at the officer, the prison term should be minimal.

7 posted on 04/14/2015 11:49:42 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Boogieman

If you want a jury trial you better have lotsa money.


8 posted on 04/14/2015 11:50:26 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: 11th Commandment

You’re....kidding?

Given the “right” judge, think “right now”.

Happens every day, hundreds of times.


9 posted on 04/14/2015 11:50:59 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: 11th Commandment

I think he was overcharged.


10 posted on 04/14/2015 11:55:26 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>Scott’s fear that he would be returned to debtor’s prison<<

Instead, the state sentenced him to death. Wow!

Shot in the back by someone who is to protect and serve.


11 posted on 04/14/2015 11:55:40 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SeekAndFind

The cop should definitely go down for this, but I think the subtext of the article is how over-regulated USSA is a big problem.

The more rules the cops have to enforce, the more of a chance of a run in with one, hence, a greater chance you die.

Like the guy in NYC who died in the course of resisting arrest, not for something like murder, rape, or robbery, but for selling loosys.

Just wait until you start getting knocks on your door by someone from the EPA to talk about that puddle in your yard and the thousands of dollars you must spend to protect it...


12 posted on 04/14/2015 11:56:21 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind
It was caused by the obnoxious anti-father rulings of the family courts and Scott's fear that he would be returned to debtor's prison. Scott had already been jailed three times for failure to pay child support, and he didn't want to be sent to prison again.

Debtors' prisons were common in England in the colonial period. You can read about them in the writings of Charles Dickens, who wrote from first-hand knowledge; his own father spent time in a debtor's prison.

Great point!!!!!

13 posted on 04/14/2015 11:59:35 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why is someone who the law is looking for driving around with a broken tail light?

duhh....

14 posted on 04/14/2015 12:01:22 PM PDT by grania
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To: 11th Commandment
Guilty of what is the question. There is no way on GOD's earth he gets convicted to murder for which is charge. I thought this well before Geraldo's opinion on the matter. He they should plead this to manslaughter and if the suspect did fire the taser at the officer, the prison term should be minimal.

Except there is no evidence that the victim fired the taser at the officer (the pictures on the conservative treehouse site don't show anything like that), and, more tellingly, at no point in any of the post-shooting videos that have been released did the officer ever claim that the victim shot the taser. Wouldn't "he shot me with my taser" have been the first words out of the officer's mouth?

15 posted on 04/14/2015 12:02:56 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind
The officer needs to state he thought he was keying his handi-talky looking for backup and didn't realize it was the trigger of his gun he was pulling while he was talking.

It's his best option at this time...

16 posted on 04/14/2015 12:03:53 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

Extremely good and important article - thanks for posting.


17 posted on 04/14/2015 12:08:25 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Boogieman
we are guaranteed a trial by jury for all criminal offenses under the 6th amendment

Nope! Like you, I thought a trial by jury was guaranteed for all criminal cases. Then a FReeper pointed out (on another thread) that the Supreme Court has arbitrarily decided that the 6th Amendment only applies for offenses punishable by more than 6 months.

I looked it up. He was right! So a person could be charged with, say, eight crimes, each punishable by 6 months, and be denied a jury trial!

So some judge could find him guilty and sentence him to 4 years in prison (8 times 6 months). No jury involved at all.

18 posted on 04/14/2015 12:08:30 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with the writer on this one.

Child support is slavery of men to the woman, and black men seem the most to have had the chains put on by these Islamic like civil family courts and initiated by the woman, black women the most often.

He was shot for not giving enough $$$ to the woman who gets it for having sex.


19 posted on 04/14/2015 12:10:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: 11th Commandment

Around here they’re jailed for nonpayment of truancy fines.

http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-berks/Local/womans-death-in-jail-prompts-introduction-of-eileens-law/26555444


20 posted on 04/14/2015 12:11:40 PM PDT by pa_dweller (If just one life can be saved, isn't CCW worth it?)
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