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Soon Kansas will require no permit, or training, to carry concealed handguns
The Kansas City Star ^ | 04/11/2015 | BY MIKE HENDRICKS

Posted on 04/14/2015 11:22:39 PM PDT by kingattax

Mike Miller knows his way around guns.

So the training course required to get a concealed-carry permit in Kansas seemed to him, at first anyway, like a time-wasting technicality.

A box to check off on a form.

But that cocky skepticism vanished during an eight-hour class that dwelled far less on shooting skills than on the weighty legalities and liabilities that come with firing a deadly weapon.

Questions like: When does justifiable homicide cross the line to murder? What are the legal limits of self-defense?

“It’s a giant responsibility,” said Miller, a publicist at the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks. “That’s probably the biggest thing these folks are going to miss.”

The folks of whom he speaks are Kansans who might not bother getting that training once a new law takes effect this summer.

As of July 1, no training will be required for someone choosing to holster a hidden gun or shove one into a purse or backpack.

After that date, concealed-gun permits will be strictly voluntary in Kansas.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


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1 posted on 04/14/2015 11:22:39 PM PDT by kingattax
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I can already hear the gnashing of teeth and wailing of voices from liberal gun haters. “Blood will run in the streets.” “There will be shoot outs over parking spaces.”


2 posted on 04/14/2015 11:42:30 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: kingattax

IMHO, one of the greatest investments one can make before one decides to carry concealed, is to at least one of Mas Ayoob’s books. Many years ago, when I was beginning to think about a CCW permit, I bought a copy of his “In the Greatest Extreme.” However, when I checked Amazon, I didn’t realize that book is 35 years old! Mas has a newer book, and being familiar with him (and having met him once, a long time ago), my guess is the new book is every bit as definitive on the subject, just more up to date. “Deadly Force - Understanding Your Right to Self Defense.”

Put simply, should I ever be involved in a shooting, in the aftermath, I would do all I could to have Mas involved in my defense as an “expert witness!”

Mark


3 posted on 04/14/2015 11:44:04 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: kingattax

Good for Kansas! “...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed ..


4 posted on 04/14/2015 11:44:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Another brilliantl- intelligent comment sent thru an amazingly-stupid spell checker)
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To: Organic Panic

It would be a smart thing to do to have a modicum of training. It would really suck to lose all your assets because of an easily preventable error.


5 posted on 04/14/2015 11:49:20 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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I don't think there will be any unusual run on gun shops because the bangers that might want to have one legal will be eyed suspiciously while IN the shop and more than likely sidle on out ... and get their gun where they could'a got 'em anyway ... on the street

Every one else will ... in all likelihood .. have a .. as you say .. modicum of desire to know a little something about what they want and what they should know

All things considered, I think it's just a reversal of a lot of the unconstitutional gun laws that have piled up over the years and Americans are beginning to push back against the enemies of our state (nation)

6 posted on 04/15/2015 12:12:55 AM PDT by knarf
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To: kingattax
That is the supreme law of the land in the first place!

We need to send our lawgistlaters to remedial reading classes. They obviously have reading comprehension difficulties.

7 posted on 04/15/2015 12:27:41 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: kingattax

The Kansas City Star publishes EVERY DAY under the Constitutional protection of the First Amendment. No government agency is permitted to vett their content or decide if their stories are accurate or might harm others.

The editorial board wants the Constitution to apply to THEM but not the citizenry.


8 posted on 04/15/2015 1:02:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: knarf

1. Legal guns cost more than illegal ones. Always have.

2. Oh, there’s ‘concern’ that people could have guns without training? Fine. Mandatory gun training in schools now. How about that, liberals?


9 posted on 04/15/2015 1:49:29 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: kingattax

I guess for news, as in what is going on in the area, the KC star is fine. But it a joke of a paper for anything else. It is highly progressive and low in circulation. People here in the KC Metro read local news websites or the Pitch for information. If they need to know about Kansas then one can go read the Topeka Capitol Journal. Plus the Star has paywalls like most every paper in many cities. The CJ doesn’t, but if it did then one can find other sources.


10 posted on 04/15/2015 1:57:56 AM PDT by Mozilla
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Mandatory training for all criminals...


11 posted on 04/15/2015 2:12:49 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: kingattax
“It’s a giant responsibility,”

There is the money quote. It is a giant responsibility, one which many of us embrace gladly.

12 posted on 04/15/2015 2:30:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Nope. Remember, the only one of our rights that children do not receive training (at least some) for in school is firearms ownership.

Time to rectify that.


13 posted on 04/15/2015 2:35:40 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MarkL

The Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network gave out copies of Massad Ayoob’s latest book with their yearly packets last year.
I love that guy.


14 posted on 04/15/2015 2:41:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I fell into a hundred foot ravine" -Marcus Luttrell)
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To: kingattax

Next is to remove the weighty legalities and liabilities for lawful gun users.


15 posted on 04/15/2015 3:55:27 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jonty30
It would be a smart thing to do to have a modicum of training. It would really suck to lose all your assets because of an easily preventable error.
Totally agree. Maybe, if people are going to carry, there should be gun training courses in high school just like driver training.
16 posted on 04/15/2015 4:01:33 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: MarkL

“I would do all I could to have Mas involved in my defense as an “expert witness!””

Really? Then take one of his courses NOW. Alumni get his legal services free.


17 posted on 04/15/2015 4:11:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: 1010RD

“Next is to remove the weighty legalities and liabilities for lawful gun users.”

Impossible. The weighty legalities and liabilities are related to the use of deadly force and threat of deadly force. There is no making that less weighty, nor should we want to. Anyone who packs heat should take the responsibility to educate themselves about when and how to use it. Drunken cowboys a hundred years ago blew legal carry for the rest of us and it took a long time for us to get it back.


18 posted on 04/15/2015 5:38:35 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: MarkL
Mas Ayoob's book is "In the Gravest Extreme..."

Excellent tutorial; I highly recommend it. But nothing is better than a careful study and knowledge of your own State's laws on the carry and use of firearms.

Wish I could have afforded the time and money to attend Mas's "LFI" (Lethal Force Institute) course while I was stuck nearby in MA...

19 posted on 04/15/2015 5:45:06 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: kingattax

Will be same effect as when Mississippi finally went true Constitutional Open Carry. No training required by the State and no reports of a bunch of untrained idiots doing stupid things with guns....you can walk around down here with a gun on your hip and have folks notice it without going bananas and calling the cops on you....


20 posted on 04/15/2015 5:48:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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