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Faculty salaries aren't causing tuition hikes, AAUP says
The Daily Tar Heel ^ | April 15, 2015 | BY HALEY MCDOUGAL

Posted on 04/15/2015 7:03:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

University tuition continues to rise, but the tendency of some critics to blame the trend on overpaid professors might not be an accurate one.

When university administrators in the UNC system and nationwide decide to increase tuition, they often cite the need for funds to retain faculty as a reason for the hike.

Still, according to an annual report about myths of professor pay from the American Association of University Professors, faculty salaries are not the primary cause of higher student costs — cuts to state support and declining university endowments are to blame.

But Jenna Robinson, president of the right-leaning Pope Center for Higher Education Policy, said "the biggest part of the cost problem has been the absolute explosion of non-instructional employees at universities.”

She said the number of administrative employees nationwide more than doubled from 1987 to 2011, according to the American Institutes for Research and the New England Center for Investigative Reporting.

At UNC, there has been a more than 300 percent increase in full-time professional staff over that period.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytarheel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; tuition; university

1 posted on 04/15/2015 7:03:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Because faculty salaries come from a separate slush fund.


2 posted on 04/15/2015 7:06:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Big Education is a primary source of Democrat campaign funding.

Univ of California employees were #1 backer of Obama in 2008.
#2 was Goldman Sachs.


3 posted on 04/15/2015 7:09:06 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I taught at a Big Ten university and a large part of its budget was set by the State, so there is a lot of truth to that argument. However, most articles written about the cost of education make no distinction between in-state and out-of-state tuition rates, with most using the more expensive tuition figures. My Ph.D. is in economics even though I ended up teaching in the computer science department (long story). The point is that I don’t think I ever approached 50% parity in terms of salary with a non-teaching job. Still, that was my choice and I did it because I truly enjoyed teaching. That said, there are other majors where the faculty were well over 100% parity because they were teaching in a field where there literally is no alternative to teaching.

I 40 years of teaching, I have never seen the AAUP come in and do anything about salaries. Their big issue is tenure and faculty rights. To me, tenure is the culprit as to what’s wrong with higher education today, and that extends to the NEA and high school (and lower) education. Fighting the AAUP on salaries is the wrong windmill...get rid of tenure and I think most problems fade away.


4 posted on 04/15/2015 7:17:30 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Still, according to an annual report about myths of professor pay from the American Association of University Professors, faculty salaries are not the primary cause of higher student costs — cuts to state support and declining university endowments are to blame.

But Jenna Robinson, president of the right-leaning Pope Center for Higher Education Policy, said ‘the biggest part of the cost problem has been the absolute explosion of non-instructional employees at universities.’”

Someone needs an editor. Jenna Robinson here is agreeing with the point made in the first paragraph. It’s one that I agree with as well. We have administrators for every conceivable thing at our university, deans and deanlets of diversity and the environment and a president who makes upwards of a million dollars for doing a job that I am sure any member of his huge and also overcompensated staff could so equally as well.


5 posted on 04/15/2015 7:28:51 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: econjack

They, the administrators, are getting rid of tenure by hiring more and more part-time and adjunct faculty who aren’t knowledgeable or qualified to teach. The problem is the point of college is no longer education. It is to coddle to students, collect their money, and give them a piece of paper that says they’ve been there.


6 posted on 04/15/2015 7:33:52 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: Catphish
I am an adjunct in a professional school. The students like my class because I have actually practiced in the area. They make snide remarks about the other professors having no practical experience. I receive little salary and contribute a significant amount to the school's overhead. Tenured faculty do not teach many classes and get paid 50 times what I receive. I do not believe the report. It is very self-serving. I do agree that schools are loaded with administrators and wonderful facilities.
7 posted on 04/15/2015 7:40:51 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, if the American Association of University Professors says University Professors are not overpaid and that their increases in pay are not responsible for rising tuition costs then it MUST be true...


8 posted on 04/15/2015 7:45:44 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

There are certainly many wonderful adjunct instructors, many who do a much better job than full-time faculty as they come with teaching experience in high school and practical work experience. They also work without health coverage, not great pay and constant pressure to lower standards.

My point, which I should have made clearer, is that many schools have lost all sight of what their purpose is. It’s not to build more facilities, swankier dorms, holding sporting events, diversity rallies, etc. it’s to educate the students.


9 posted on 04/15/2015 7:51:08 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: WayneS
The major problem facing The Academics, is the one line schools of the current and future. My consulting Co, would be reluctant to hire anyone from the Icy league, or with a 4.0 GPA. The downside is that sitting around the house doing on line studies, you miss all the Frat Parties, and campus brawls. In the 6 years of College, I can only think of 5 profs that were worth their pay.
10 posted on 04/15/2015 8:16:18 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Catphish

True, there is a lot of that going on, especially with the online “universities”. And it is also true that it is very difficult to get tenure now and, unless you are well-published, your chances are pretty slim. However, the ones who do get tenure are usually research-oriented with a proven track record of grantsmanship. Good teachers don’t seem to get much attention.


11 posted on 04/15/2015 8:17:52 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Catphish

If you allow students into your university for free, someone has to pay for that. If you increase your course catalog with degree courses like womyns studies, african dance and what its like to be gay in rural america, someone has to pay for that. When your tenured instructors teach only one class and spend the rest of their time doing the publish or perish thing, and they get retirement bennies for that one class, someone has to pay for that.

Not magic. The day “minority studies” became a degree program, tuition costs exploded.


12 posted on 04/15/2015 8:17:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam, the Communists enforcers.)
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To: Catphish

In my opinion, the purpose of the university should be to teach people how to educate themselves.


13 posted on 04/15/2015 8:21:12 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: econjack

” ... get rid of tenure and I think most problems fade away.”

Except, of course, salaries - at least in those fields where there are viable alternatives to college teaching.


14 posted on 04/15/2015 8:22:44 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
faculty salaries are not the primary cause of higher student costs — cuts to state support and declining university endowments are to blame.

In other words, when the state was handing out money, the Universities used it to inflate salaries. Now that the states are cutting back on their largesse, the universities can no longer sustain he inflated salaries.

"the biggest part of the cost problem has been the absolute explosion of non-instructional employees at universities.”

In other words, the state used the universities to create phoney baloney jobs to hide unemployment numbers, and now they cannot sustain those jobs any longer.

-PJ

15 posted on 04/15/2015 8:30:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Catphish
“We have administrators for every conceivable thing at our university, deans and deanlets of diversity and the environment ...”

mrs riverdawg tells me that, at the nearby state university where she works, in the past 20 years the ratio of non-teaching staff to teaching faculty has flipped from 2/3 to 3/2.

16 posted on 04/15/2015 8:35:03 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You get what you pay for. I too have been affiliated with higher education for many years. I work at a public institution and the state funds about 20% of our budget with the rest coming from tuition and research bucks. The STEM fields are full of pretty clever scientists and engineers. The ranking of importance in higher ed is always administration 1st—now including many lawyers that run the show, faculty a distant second, and then students close behind. In my area we frequently lose professors to industry and private practice because salaries are at least 30 to 50% higher—I would have left long ago if not for my rural roots and gone to industry near a city.

The liberal arts are a very different story where degrees are offered in all manner of useless and unmarketable drivel. I still support tenure because without it, liberals would silence ALL conservative opinion.


17 posted on 04/15/2015 8:57:15 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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18 posted on 04/15/2015 9:59:52 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the biggest part of the cost problem has been the absolute explosion of non-instructional employees at universities

There is a lot of truth to this. Huge numbers of entire offices on campus solely devoted to everything from improving the "college experience" of students to making sure students graduate in a timely manner to ensuring we're "inclusive" of every minority group under the sun (conservatives need not apply) to outreach to the illegal population (new favored group). These administrative offices exist only to run these specialized programs and are generally very well-staffed and generously funded.

19 posted on 04/15/2015 10:31:00 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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