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Obama’s Lawyer: Religious Institutions May Lose Tax-Exempt Status If Court Rules for Gay Marriage
National Review Online ^ | April 28, 2015 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 04/28/2015 12:21:30 PM PDT by C19fan

Religious institutions could be at risk of losing their tax-exempt status due to their beliefs about marriage if the Supreme Court holds that gay couples have a constitutional right to wed, President Obama’s attorney acknowledged to the Supreme Court today. “It’s certainly going to be an issue,” Solicitor General Donald Verrilli replied when Justice Samuel Alito asked if schools that support the traditional definition of marriage would have to be treated like schools that once opposed interracial marriage. “I don’t deny that.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; indiana; marriage; mikepence; religious; rfra; scotus; ssm
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To: C19fan

I have great love for the Church but this is what they get for bedding the Progressives for the past 100+ years. It’s called Natural Consequences.


41 posted on 04/28/2015 12:48:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: C19fan

First, the tax exempt status will be removed for any church that refuses to perform same-sex weddings.

Some people on this site have expressed the opinion that this is a good thing, that then ministers will be “free” to preach the truth.

Not so. Once the tax exempt status is removed, and there is no major push back to that, then next is the “hate speech” laws that Canada and the United Kingdom already have in place. Ministers have already been put in jail for preaching against same-sex marriage or homosexuality.

Once that is done, then the Bible itself will be declared a “hate book” and it will be illegal to carry it openly or even to own one.

This is where we are headed if nothing stops the avalanche that is happening right now.


42 posted on 04/28/2015 12:48:22 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: conservativejoy

” I think that’s their goal, to completely destroy religious institutions.”

Of course it is.


43 posted on 04/28/2015 12:50:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Jeff Chandler

tax-exempt status was a bad idea anyway, they should never have registered with the government to begin with


44 posted on 04/28/2015 12:51:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: ealgeone

re: “Fine....then preachers can say what they want.”

I disagree. They may be left alone for a short time, but if there is no push back to removing the tax exempt status, then the next rung on the descent into hell is declaring preaching against homosexuality or same-sex marriage as “hate speech”. The mayor in San Antonio already tried to do that very thing, but it was stopped, for now.

Canada and the UK already have such laws and have been prosecuting ministers who preach “hate.

Then, next is declaring the Bible a “hate book”.

If nothing happens to turn this juggernaut around, I think we are looking at all these things happening within the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe sooner.


45 posted on 04/28/2015 12:52:27 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: tanknetter

I am praying hard that you’re correct. But the left always presses its advantages, no matter how unpopular it may be at the moment. They didn’t fight that hard just to give up ground. They will just bring the apathetic, distracted, majority of the public along after they enact the law. See CommieCare. They will suppress voices of opposition until the public believes that everyone thinks it’s a good thing (and the ones who still don’t believe it, believe themselves to be isolated), because most people are sheep.


46 posted on 04/28/2015 12:52:45 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Nateman

I admit, the thought is not original with me.

It was pointed out in an article I read about the Houston mayor who started to go after religious institutions because she thought the churches were speaking out against her and violating provisions of their 501(c)(3) status.

The author said she thought the reason the Mayor backed down was due to someone basically hauling her aside and telling the Mayor to back off, because this was a court fight she would lose and therefore, government would lose control of the churches.

Pretty good article here: http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/21/houston-sermons-are-legally-speaking-fair-game/

The last paragraph is the clincher. I believe this article is the one I was alluding to when I mentioned the “deal with the devil.”


47 posted on 04/28/2015 12:53:14 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: C19fan

On the bright side, this would help the push to a flat tax with no deductions of any kind.


48 posted on 04/28/2015 12:55:27 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: stylin_geek
Obama’s Lawyer: Religious Institutions May Lose Tax-Exempt Status If Court Rules for Gay Marriage

This would be a good thing. Obama is miscalculating, thankfully.

49 posted on 04/28/2015 12:55:53 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Luckily I have several copies and lots more ammo.


50 posted on 04/28/2015 12:56:25 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Bears repeating:

First, the tax exempt status will be removed for any church that refuses to perform same-sex weddings.

Some people on this site have expressed the opinion that this is a good thing, that then ministers will be “free” to preach the truth.

Not so. Once the tax exempt status is removed, and there is no major push back to that, then next is the “hate speech” laws that Canada and the United Kingdom already have in place. Ministers have already been put in jail for preaching against same-sex marriage or homosexuality.

Once that is done, then the Bible itself will be declared a “hate book” and it will be illegal to carry it openly or even to own one.

This is where we are headed if nothing stops the avalanche that is happening right now.


51 posted on 04/28/2015 12:57:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: C19fan

I’d prefer to keep my soul.


52 posted on 04/28/2015 12:58:51 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; conservativejoy

they’ll only target bible believing Christians.

Those who are compromised will be left alone.


53 posted on 04/28/2015 1:02:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

If the supreme court decides that states can outlaw homosexual marriage, would California’s Prop 8 be reinstated?


54 posted on 04/28/2015 1:03:15 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Honestly, I don’t know how it would come out.

Hitler knew the times in which he lived, which allowed him to get away with murder.

Our current president has gotten away with “extra-judicial” killing of American citizens and various other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Churches have to stand up against government intrusion. More than likely, though, the Churches will allow government to define the box in which the church must remain and then government will slowly shrink the box until the church finally wakes up. By then, it will be too late.

The times being what they are, I just don’t know if the will is there to resist tyranny. Heck, most of us already keep our heads down, because we darn well know all it takes is one petty government official and our lives are ruined.


55 posted on 04/28/2015 1:05:36 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: C19fan

You can bet your butt that if a church stands against homo-fag marriage that they will lose their tax exempt status. AND thousands of entities that Churches support will be the victims as about 40% of the church’s income will go to the commies in fag DC and the churches will not have the monies to support the various charities, missionaries, children’s homes, etc.


56 posted on 04/28/2015 1:05:48 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

re: “Luckily I have several copies and lots more ammo.”

I hear you, brother. Can you believe that the once great United States of America, the last bastion of real freedom on earth, that saved the world in two world wars, that has freed millions of people from oppression, has come to this? As Thomas Jefferson once said, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.”


57 posted on 04/28/2015 1:06:26 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: C19fan

The Catholic church is already adjusting it’s “preaching”.


58 posted on 04/28/2015 1:07:34 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: C19fan

We are at that awkward point in history where we have recognized that there is no point in voting. The government rules us without regard to the Constitution. But, the shooting has not yet started. Patience and prayer for now.


59 posted on 04/28/2015 1:10:15 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: NorthMountain

I agree with your sentiments about how they’ll kill Christians. It’ll be a progression. So when will there be any “push back” by those being persecuted?


60 posted on 04/28/2015 1:10:50 PM PDT by tenger (May you live in interesting times. - Chinese curse)
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