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HOMESCHOOLERS INTERROGATED ON GUNS, VACCINES
World Net Daily ^ | 5/7/2015 | LEO HOHMANN

Posted on 05/08/2015 8:52:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

It all started with an unwanted knock on the door by a government worker and it’s being answered with a $60 million lawsuit. A New Jersey family is suing the state child-protection agency after it allegedly sent a caseworker to their home to interrogate them on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.

Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole of Belvidere filed a civil rights complaint in April in U.S. District Court in Trenton alleging “unlawful and unconstitutional home intrusion.” “I won’t forget that morning for a long, long time,” said Christopher Zimmer, thinking back to Tuesday, Jan. 13, which began with a caseworker knocking on his front door.

He said Michelle Marchese, a caseworker for the state Division of Child Protection and Permanency, demanded she be let inside the house, “Now!” according to court documents. Startled by the aggressive confrontation, Christopher Zimmer asked the purpose of her visit.

Marchese refused to answer the question, saying only that 15-year-old Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education” and she was at the Zimmer home under the authority of DCP&P to make sure they were homeschooling their son “correctly,” the suit states.

Not knowing the extent of his rights, Christopher Zimmer phoned local police. The police arrived on the scene but allowed Marchese to enter the home and continue to issue threats to the family and inspect the house, all without a warrant, the lawsuit states.

The Zimmers let the woman inside, attempting to prove they had nothing to hide, but after two hours of what the family described as intense interrogation, it became clear this issue would not be quickly resolved.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; 4thamendment; arth; bang; banglist; childservices; constitution; corruption; dyfs; frhf; government; guns; homeschool; homeschooling; intrusion; prnj; schoolchoice
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1 posted on 05/08/2015 8:52:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Wonderful. When they win they both will be able to stay home and school the kids. Perhaps even have a few more.


2 posted on 05/08/2015 8:53:30 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Liberals believe that all children are the property of the state and they alone decide how a child should be raised.


3 posted on 05/08/2015 8:58:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

What is that flat slob Chris “Kissy” Christy doing about the gestapo state in New Jersey?


4 posted on 05/08/2015 8:59:38 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Jan_Sobieski
She also demanded that he remove the guns from the safe and show them to her, which he did.

Why would they comply in the absence of a warrant? The parents need to review their legal rights. There are conditions in which I would permit a government agent inside my home without a warrant, and I have done so when filing a report of a crime. However, I would never permit them inside my safe, whether I had anything inside that safe or not.

5 posted on 05/08/2015 9:01:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole of Belvidere filed a civil rights complaint in April in U.S. District Court in Trenton alleging “unlawful and unconstitutional home intrusion.”

That's a neat name, "Nicole of Belvidere."

Or maybe the reporter--like most reporters--just doesn't know about commas.

6 posted on 05/08/2015 9:01:57 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Dogone right... sue them to hell


7 posted on 05/08/2015 9:02:31 AM PDT by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

THIS is why we have HSLDA on speed-dial.


8 posted on 05/08/2015 9:11:05 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: null and void; Nachum; Kartographer; LucyT; butterdezillion; INVAR; Dick Bachert; GOPJ; BCW; ...
H/T to our FRiend Jan_Sobieski for the post.

The Communist Goals stated that they would use social agencies to enforce the regime - we have been seeing overreaching powers bestowed upon "social services" in the past.

In a number of incidents, they are also looking to equate homeschool parents with the DHS/SPLC Domestic terrorist List, as published in 2010.

For thus has the Lord said unto me:
“Go, set a watchman, Let him declare what he sees.”
Isaiah 21:6

The Watchman Ping List - FReepmail Old Sarge for details!

9 posted on 05/08/2015 9:11:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: envisio
Let Satan put up up with this crap.
10 posted on 05/08/2015 9:11:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“A New Jersey family...”

This is a clear violation of this family’s God-given rights. It’s wrong. No doubt about it. But it brings up something I’ve been wondering about. There are states that allow people to be more free than others. New Jersey is obviously not one of them. I understand why people stay in their state, but people have died for freedom. We applaud immigrants who risk everything to come to America for freedom. Couldn’t people move across a state line for freedom?

It’s not just a little thing like having a 15 round mag vs a 30 round mag. Some states really want to do medical experiments on your kids, there are states who don’t, and you can move.


11 posted on 05/08/2015 9:13:11 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Ah...the joys of life in the North East.


12 posted on 05/08/2015 9:13:30 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Blood of Tyrants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qtpdSQox0


13 posted on 05/08/2015 9:13:41 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Nicole of Belvidere sounds like somebody's SCA name ...
14 posted on 05/08/2015 9:13:51 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Rio

ding dong
yes?
CPS.
Just a minute... OK, I have HSLDA on one line and Heritage defense on the other. Who would you prefer to be sued by?


15 posted on 05/08/2015 9:14:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Pollster1

CPS came to my house once to investigate my granddaughters ‘spiral break’ when she fell off her scooter and broke her leg. I let them in to talk to her but stated my conditions first. Not alone, I’d be sitting right beside her and if they strayed from the topic they would be stopped and escorted out the door.
They said okay and at first they abided but eventually they had to get to the part where they started asking about her Mom and Dad’s relationship. I stopped them, told her not to answer and escorted them to the door.
Never heard from them again. lol
You definitely need to know your rights anymore.


16 posted on 05/08/2015 9:14:05 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Jan_Sobieski; metmom

Get YOUR children out of the government indoctrination centers - NOW!!


17 posted on 05/08/2015 9:17:50 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Jan_Sobieski

All your children are belong to us.


18 posted on 05/08/2015 9:18:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: demshateGod

Such individuals belong in Bellevue or St. Elizabeth’s.


19 posted on 05/08/2015 9:23:18 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Pollster1

They should have joined HSLDA. It would have saved them a lot of grief.


20 posted on 05/08/2015 9:23:49 AM PDT by goldi
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