Posted on 05/09/2015 5:53:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf
It is every parent’s worst nightmare, and according to a report on Police State Daily and the Medical Kidnapping site; for one homeschooling family in Kentucky, it has come true. On May 6, Kentucky homesteading Naugler family had their ten children taken into the custody of the state and are now fighting to regain custody and to prove their innocence.
According to the family’s facebook blog page, Blessed Little Homestead, and other sources above, the police showed up, asked to see the children, and when the mother asked to see a warrant and what the charges were, the sheriff proceeded to explain how it would “come down” if she did not comply and that there had been an anonymous complaint filed with Child Protective Services that he needed to investigate. Eventually, she agreed for the two older children to wave to the officer and was then free to go. At that point, she drove away with her two oldest children and was pulled over.
According to the audio of the incident, she was then asked to release the children into their custody. She refused, but the children were still taken. As they were taken, she reacted with heart-wrenching screams as she was being cuffed and arrested. On later audio, her husband shows up on the scene and asks where his children and wife are and records the transaction as he is told to bring his other 8 children to a specified location by 10 a.m. or he would be arrested and the children taken into state custody. He complied, and all ten of the children are now in state custody. Nicole Naugler also blogs at homestead mama.
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What is interesting is the excuse used. If they use any excuse other than "they don't go to government schools, they would have to take the kids from most of the families in eastern Kentucky.
This appears to be prompted by the government being concerned about too many people home shcooling, and not doing it as the state feels fit. Laura Engels would have become a ward of the state if they used the same standards back in the day.
I tried to post this article from Raw News, but apparently FR blocks that site. No problem. It’s being covered on many news sources. Well, except for the MSM (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.).
The old saying is that if the MSM didn’t report it, it didn’t happen. Except id did. And does.
the parents seem to militantly oppose.. The New Hope and Change..and thus had to be corralled for the good of das children.....
With people like M. McC and others, KY is a big government state and shall so remain to the sad disadvantage of this family.
We will learn next to nothing more as the govt hostage takers will have threatened the family NOT TO TALK under threat of never seeing their kids again.
We need to have advance heads up BEFORE leo comes out to take hostages. There are still plenty of armed Americans that would standoff the LEO thugs. Just see Nevada last year at the ranch.
Once the kids are taken, facts are manipulated and the truth gets killed.
Number two ... STAY OFF FACEBOOK.
Scrolling down the article to the comments section, it appears the children might not have been taken because of home schooling but because of dangerous living conditions.
I’m not sure which is the true scenario, but the article is vague on the facts.
Number one through one thousand: Stay off FaceBook. When I was going to school, I had a teacher tell the class when someone asked about those who wrote poems, prose, and other things in textbooks. She said, “there is an old saying, “Fool’s names and fool’s faces are always seen in public places.” FaceBook illustrates that saying well.
This family should remove themselves to a fifth floor walk up in Detroit and let the kids play in the street. No one would bother them, least of all law enforcement.
Amen to that.
Right, cause kids can only legitimately be “free ranged” in public schools.
If you follow various storylines of the episode....this family....the Nauglers....go by a method call “unschooling” which basically means natural experiences (games, play, household chores, travel, and personal courses of study). Note, they don’t mention home-schooling which tends to require basic degrees of normal topics that most all home-schooling parents incorporate into their efforts, along with booklets and text.
The problem with this is that once the kids get to eighteen....then what? No one will be able to attest to their reading level. One kid might read at the 3rd grade level and the next kid might read at the 9nd grade level. One kid might have a 12th grade grasp of math and the next kid might have the 4th grade grasp of math. If they came to your factory, shop or office....applying for a job...maybe you’d accept them, but then four weeks later....ask them to leave because they can’t write basic English text at even the 9th grade level.
All these parents are doing....are setting the kids up for stocking shelves, pumping gas, and mowing grass. Beyond that...when the kid reaches thirty and becomes aware of his/her shortfallings...now what? Who screwed up this?
Don’t lecture me over home-schooling....if you go by the method, you aren’t selling the kids short. These parents aren’t home-schooling. They simply letting the kids tag along and just catch things as they occur. That might be ok for 1815, but here in 2015....you kinda need a decent basic education or you get screwed.
Stuff like this is why I’m torn when I saw the rocks thrown at cops in Baltimore.
I actually get all of that and I agree with your concerns, seriously.
But my core beliefs that come from my understanding of bible teaching, the constitution of the country I live in, and everything every other information source I respect causes me to come to this conclusion:
They are not my kids and it is none of my business. It doesn’t mean I can’t, if so inclined, try to counsel the parents to better prepare their children for adulthood, but that’s all I should be allowed to do. Nobody should be allowed to interfere via the Power of the Gun, which is the technical definition of what the government is doing.
Nobody.
“All these parents are doing....are setting the kids up for stocking shelves, pumping gas, and mowing grass.”
That’s a nice story, but do you have any empirical evidence of that? I mean, can you cite any instances of that ever happening?
the gov’t warehouses for kids - aka public schools - get a per head bounty payment each day a kid is in school.
Ten kids not in school - lotta money they aren’t getting
In the meantime, even after the family gets their kids back, they have been traumatized for life - their security gone, never knowing when they’ll be snatched again.
They need to get their kids and then SUE - with a suit on the table, the state will stay away.
Because I know a kid who was essentially unschooled, and he now works for a US congressmen, and pols are constantly calling him to help in their campaigns.
Scrolling down the article to the comments section, it appears the children might not have been taken because of home schooling but because of dangerous living conditions.
i.e. If this same government ever went to eastern Ky, they’d round up half the kids there, and because of much WORSE living conditions.
This is about people that the government can’t control, and there are enough of them now that the government is trying to set examples.
You oughta hear what they are doing regarding people trying to use and sell raw milk.
If it’s a question of education, 95% of the kids within inner city public schools should be taken over as they come out of school with even less education than what they just described within the article.
Absolutely.
She evidently also had a blog about the family homesteading - makes a target for busy-bodies who don't believe in parental authority - nor homeschooling -
Stay under the radar
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