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What Bernie Sanders Says Socialism Would Look Like in U.S. If He Won Presidency
Pajamas Media ^ | 05/11/2015 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/11/2015 7:40:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Noting that he’s “perhaps the most progressive member of the United States Senate,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) described today how, as president, he would do socialism in America.

“When we talk about Democratic socialism, I think it is important to realize that there are countries around the world, like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, who have had social democratic governments on and off for many, many years. And we can learn a whole lot from some of those countries,” the 2016 Democratic presidential contender said on CBS this morning.

“For example, the United States is the only major country on earth that doesn’t guarantee healthcare to all people as a right. And if you look at the healthcare systems in those countries, you know what, not only that they cover all their people, much more cost-effective than we are. We end up spending almost twice as much as they do,” he said.

In terms of education, Sanders said, “all of those countries in Germany, Austria, many other countries, you know what they say? That, in a highly competitive global economy, all people, regardless of their income, should be able to get a college education. College education is free in those countries. That makes a lot of sense to me.”

Another area is the country’s child care system, the senator continued, which “is a total disaster.”

“Those systems are much better. By and large, what they do is many of these countries have higher voter turnouts than we do. They have governments which do a lot better job representing their middle class, rather than a billionaire class, which has much power today in our economic and political landscape,” he said.

Sanders added that it’s “fair to say” he’s more liberal than the most liberal Democrat.

“If elected president, I will have a litmus test in terms of my nominee to be a Supreme Court justice. And that nominee will say that we are going to overturn this disastrous Supreme Court decision on Citizens United, because that decision is undermining American democracy,” he said. “I do not believe that billionaires should be able to buy politicians.”

Sanders said he’s drawn about 90,000 contributors for his campaign since his announcement, with the average donation $43.

“I don’t think we are going to outspend Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush or anybody else. But I think we are going to raise the kinds of money that we need to run a strong and winning campaign,” he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; presidency; sanders2016; socialism
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To: SeekAndFind
Sanders: "Hmmm, which mask to wear today? The Marx mask, or the Lenin mask, or the Stalin mask, or the Hitler mask, or the 0bama mask, or my own face? They all look alike for some reason..."
21 posted on 05/11/2015 8:00:47 AM PDT by W. (Many Disqus sites, Cheezburger.com and [The Internet] Archive.org all censor conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What Bernie also forgets is that in order for socialism to “work”, you need either a massive military like China and the USSR, or you need some other country, like the US in the cold war, to protect you.


22 posted on 05/11/2015 8:01:20 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: ThomasMore
I fully support Bernie for the 'Rat nomination. All the more power to him in his quest.

... enhances the Cruz contrast.

23 posted on 05/11/2015 8:03:11 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

A ‘Right’ is something the government cannot take away from you. So everyone already has the right to healthcare, education...


24 posted on 05/11/2015 8:03:58 AM PDT by Borges
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To: SeekAndFind

The FREE SCHIT Fairy is coming, folks...

And anyone that dares to question it will be labeled as a “Hater”, or “Crazt”.


25 posted on 05/11/2015 8:05:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where would the progs be without their apples-to-oranges comparisons? Yes, let’s compare nations with small, relatively homogenous populations to the United States. Let’s look at countries that spend little on their own defense.


26 posted on 05/11/2015 8:05:31 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: tcrlaf

Winston Churchill was right. You can count on the American people to do the right thing, once they’ve exhausted all of the alternatives.

And since we’ve not yet tried Scandinavian Socialism, I suspect we’re gonna give it a whirl. What he is saying is ludicrous, but it sounds awfully good to broad swaths of the unwashed.


27 posted on 05/11/2015 8:12:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s a typical democrat, just more honest about it than some.


28 posted on 05/11/2015 8:13:50 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (We need a conservative electable candidate in 2016)
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To: Borges
If health care is a right, then aren't food, clothing, and shelter rights that the gov. must provide? A person certainly can't survive without food. That's more important than health care.

Of course, that is exactly the way socialists think. And that kind of thinking created "wonderful" societies like the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, Maoist China and a number of others.

29 posted on 05/11/2015 8:18:31 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind
The people who promote the Nordic countries as “models” conveniently ignore the fact that they are very homogeneous (or were in the past) and have a very strong work ethic. This has a lot to do with making that model viable. We have no such thing in the country, and less so every day. Of course, I'm sure these people realize it. And the ignorant, low information voters who support them have no clue.
30 posted on 05/11/2015 8:18:36 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: SeekAndFind

31 posted on 05/11/2015 8:21:06 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh

In Line at Coopers in Llano Texas

32 posted on 05/11/2015 8:24:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: SeekAndFind
College education is free in those countries. That makes a lot of sense to me

"Free?" Yes... of course everything whose cost is thrown onto the backs of taxpayers is deemed "free" in socialist lexicon.

33 posted on 05/11/2015 8:27:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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To: circlecity

Their “teachers” and “administrators” are nothing but useful idiots who make sure the children and young adults remain “happy slaves” of the State as they and their parents’ worldview is being wiped off the face of the earth. The minds of all the “old European” children are totally controlled by the State.

Children’s worldview is controlled by their masters to destroy individuality and self-initiative. It is why in their “preschools” now they have “sex boxes” and will not declare the “sex” of the child. They are sexualizing all the children—erasing Reason and Truth-— exactly like in “Brave New World”-—to create just copulating animals (kids) so that all people will only look at others as “objects” and the concept of biological connections will be obliterated as will be terms “mother and father” and the Christian Worldview is impossible. (That which created the Age of Reason and the US Constitution—Individual Natural Rights from God). The old serf/peasant cultures will be resurrected with our masters-—who have ruled all people since the beginning of time......except on the Shiny City on the Hill (USA)-—and in pockets in Europe.

It is the object of Fichte being realized (group think which is only emotion and destroys all individuality and critical thinking (Reason and Logic) skills).

(Here are his words through Bertrand Russell below)—which are being utilized by TV programing and public school Common Core/Goals 2000, NCLB etc. (all govt. run organizations which include many so-called “Christian” churches, movies by the sodomites in Hollywood (who were raping Corey Feldman and Corey Haimes— Feldman said were all pedophiles in Hollywood (shaping your children’s desires and attitudes).

“Fichte laid it down that, education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. But in his day this was an unattainable ideal: what he regarded as the best system in existence produced Karl Marx. In future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship.

Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.”

The Leviathan is here-—get your children OUT of public schools and away from programming (TV/Movies) etc. Control the ideas and attitudes with REAL HUMAN INTERACTIONS which form character and the ability to Love the other. (The Natural biological family)...where the correct attitudes and worldview of Individualism/uniqueness and TRUE SELF-ESTEEM and autonomy (minds like Lincoln) are MADE.......

Animals removed from their Natural habitat during crucial psycho-sexual stages are warped for life. Humans need their Natural biological connections for humanization (the capability to Love and have true self-esteem). (We used to KNOW how evil and destructive orphanages were-—although creating the stand-in for mom and dad is the ideal for these unfortunate children who are left without parents).

Now we have “Just” Laws that remove biological parents from children ON PURPOSE and dehumanizing “sperm” banks, etc....pure Satanic——it is pure EVIL law (null and void) and dehumanization of children.


34 posted on 05/11/2015 8:29:28 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeekAndFind

just more proof of the 17th Amendment repeal.

The college is free line in the EU is not quite true... it is free if the education machine anoints you in 5th grade... much like what Common core desires to do here in the US.... or your parents place you in a private academy... otherwise your get your trade skills and hope your employer sponsors you to University later in life... Free yes, but only when your over lords deem you can attend...

So many free spirited Norwegians and Germans run away to NZ and Australia and the less the US now...


35 posted on 05/11/2015 8:40:38 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: circlecity
Wow, all those teachers and administrators work for nothing just to provide a college education for everyone?

Funny how that works, isn't it?

FMCDH(BITS)

36 posted on 05/11/2015 8:45:20 AM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: SeekAndFind

37 posted on 05/11/2015 8:46:22 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: rbg81
Swedish model?
38 posted on 05/11/2015 8:58:23 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: ScottinVA

There was a local company here that famously had a fistfight break out amongst their engineering staff when the American engineers learned that their H1B counterpart had gotten his PhD 100% “free” in his home country, while they were each carrying $30-50K in student debt each on their Masters.

Those guys would likely vote for Bernie.


39 posted on 05/11/2015 8:59:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

High taxation and minimal defense outlays make the comparison between Scandinavian countries and the US a false one.

Denmark — corporate tax 24%, individual tax= minimum 46.03%, maximum 61.03%; payroll 8%; VAT/GST/Sales 25%

Defense outlays: $4.44B

Finland — corporate tax 20%, individual tax= minimum 7.71%, maximum 61.96%; payroll 20.64%, VAT/GST/Sales 24%

Defense outlays: $3.6B

Norway — corporate tax 27%; individual tax= minimum 0%, maximum 47.2%; payroll 0-14.1%; VAT/GST/Sales 24%

Defense outlays: $7B

Sweden — corporate tax 22%; individual tax= minimum 0%, maximum 59.7%; payroll 31.42%; VAT/GST/Sales 25%

Defense Outlays: $6.215B


USA Defense Outlays: $577.1B


40 posted on 05/11/2015 9:17:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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