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Conservatives meet in Tyson's Corner to whittle down 2016 list [Important]
CNN Politics ^ | May 14, 2015 | Theodore Schleifer

Posted on 05/14/2015 7:23:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Mariner

You are clueless. The dang thing has not even passed.


21 posted on 05/14/2015 8:55:21 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: Mariner

Of course, the language of the trade bill is secret, so whether it is a good thing is only hearsay on hearsay, and a guess.

Hard to judge what you can’t see.


22 posted on 05/14/2015 9:11:47 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: SoConPubbie
"How is that a total circumvention of the Constitution when Congress still has the ability to vote it down according to that bill?"

Well, mister Republican, are you aware that Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2 of the US Constitution requires a 2/3's Majority consent of the Senate for any International Treaty, but with Fast Track only 51 votes are required to ratify any agreement POTUS submits?

Are you, mister smart Republican?

23 posted on 05/14/2015 9:15:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; Gator113
“Is this a REPUBLICAN website? Surely even a newbie like you knows that is not the case:)”

Surely an old timer like you knows, in an election for President, candidates are filing for office with a Republican label or Democrat label for these largest two political parties. Under the Republican label, there are RINOS/liberals/on the fence/lefties/righties, then there is a true conservative TED CRUZ.

If you don't like a vote of his, go to his website and read, or send him a message to explain his vote. He knows exactly how to deal with Democrats in the senate and has a reason for voting like he did - you are not smart enough to figure it out, so ask him. I've read your posts on other threads - you are one who thinks he sees a chink in Cruz's armor and go off half cocked to stomp on him. I see you as a useless thorn, digging in just to dig in.

24 posted on 05/14/2015 9:16:46 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: libbylu
"You are clueless. The dang thing has not even passed."

http://www.rttnews.com/story.aspx?Id=2499294

Cloture is passage in this Senate, everyone but the stupid know that.

Where have you been?

25 posted on 05/14/2015 9:20:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Well, mister Republican, are you aware that Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2 of the US Constitution requires a 2/3's Majority consent of the Senate for any International Treaty, but with Fast Track only 51 votes are required to ratify any agreement POTUS submits?

So? Then if your understanding of the Constitution as it applies to this bill is correct, it should be as simple as filing a lawsuit to have it overturned on constitutional grounds alone, right?
26 posted on 05/14/2015 9:25:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mariner; libbylu
Cloture is passage in this Senate, everyone but the stupid know that.

No, not true. Many bills are voted out of committee and never see the President's desk.

Where have you been?
27 posted on 05/14/2015 9:26:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mariner; Jim Robinson; All

The Free Republic Freepathon is on - have you made your contribution yet? Maybe you are a monthly donor like some of us or maybe you are in the 300 club. You have been here so long surely you are supporting FR by donating. FR is pro Cruz, even if you aren’t and keep poking your thorns in him.

Everyone who hasn’t donated in this Freepathon, should take care of that right away.


28 posted on 05/14/2015 9:28:23 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: SoConPubbie; Mariner

Actually, what I should have said is that even though a cloture vote is taken and passes, all it does is end debate. There are plenty of bill that are voted past cloture and never see the President’s desk.


29 posted on 05/14/2015 9:28:25 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Marcella; Mariner

How did this really great post story get highjacked by happy Mr. Friggin Wonderful, anyway?

On the subject at hand, (clears throat) I’m really glad to see Phyliss Schlafley out there among these convening organizations, and Focus on the Family, etc.

I may not like who they back in the end, but I do like their idea of respecting the purpose of the National Convention, where money doesn’t buy the nominee, but the delegates do. A little brokerin’ goin’ on suits me just fine after decades of cascading cash squashes the race, demoralizes every voter and forces delegates into corners.


30 posted on 05/14/2015 10:00:10 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks.


31 posted on 05/14/2015 10:06:48 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

;>)


32 posted on 05/14/2015 10:11:21 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz is the only true Conservative in this race.)
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To: Mariner

Scott Walker while in Germany came out in support of the Free Trade agreement.


33 posted on 05/14/2015 10:44:53 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: Slyfox
Loudon's a pretty persuasive speaker. Gets everybody fired up with that announce the cabinet strategy. I thought the suggestion of having several pairs of potential cabinet appointees delivering a consistent message at multiple rallies each day would just perplex the media to no end.
34 posted on 05/14/2015 10:48:13 PM PDT by kitchen (The people on the left are enemies, not countrymen with different opinions.)
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To: Marcella

Yeah, many of them here, trying find the minute wee bitty smallest chink in Ted Cruz’s armor but ignore the swiss cheese holes in ALL the other canadate’s armor.


35 posted on 05/14/2015 10:51:29 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: Mariner

Essentially they are proving this to be true.


36 posted on 05/14/2015 11:27:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mariner

“It doesn’t matter who “conservatives” pick because there are no conservatives in the Republican Party. “

I agree, Ted Cruz is a TOOL OF KARL ROVE.

I was wondering about that. He’s clearly controlled by somebody. The fact that he’s saying and doing virtually everything the Republican base wants can mean only one thing: HE MUST BE CONTROLLED BY KARL ROVE.

Perhaps Rove is using him to prevent a REAL CONSERVATIVE from running, like Howard Baker, for example. That way we will be tricked into supporting Cruz, when his puppet master is Karl Rove.

There for I WILL NOT VOTE and no one else here should vote either...since all the candidates are really the same, since they are all CONTROLLED BY KARL ROVE, and even worse, they’re NO DIFFERENT from Hillary.


Not easy for me to be a troll, but this is the best that I can do. How was it?


37 posted on 05/15/2015 3:52:30 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: Mariner

‘Go ahead, and grant your executioner absolution.’

I am not dead
and neither is the country.

‘Stand and fight’ seems good advice to me.


38 posted on 05/15/2015 4:01:32 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they met within 1000 miles of DC they are probably part of the problem.


39 posted on 05/15/2015 4:36:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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