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Finding Redemption in the Josh Duggar Story
Townhall.com ^ | May 25, 2015 | Michael Brown

Posted on 05/25/2015 10:05:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Not a Duggar fan, know very little about them. It is curious back in my memory how a certain nationally acclaimed preacher, came out in support of a pervert president. and the baptists swooned over loving the sinner and condemning the sin. Why they helped reelect the sinner. Not sure what to make of many of the comments posted. More and more that acclaimed book describing that ‘some animals are above the rest’ mentality permeates our whole society.
61 posted on 05/25/2015 11:56:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: NorthstarMom

Although I always got the feeling they kept churning out kids to keep sponsors happy and the show on the air. When there is no camera around to ensure a profit from continued drama the pressure is off the older kids and they can finally start to slowly break away. Must be an incredible relief to actually live a little after those many years of programmed nonsense.


62 posted on 05/25/2015 11:58:10 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: ilovesarah2012; windcliff

Wasn’t that nice? /S

And that’s the family whose females have a code word to whisper so that the males can quickly lower their eyes and not be “tempted” by a female. Yet it was perfectly fine for the girl’s fiancee to witness that.


63 posted on 05/25/2015 11:58:39 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: NorthstarMom

I’ll be honest, Michelle’s baby voice made me clench my teeth.


64 posted on 05/25/2015 12:01:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon

I bet she could swing a paddle with the best of them though.


65 posted on 05/25/2015 12:02:20 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Tired of Taxes

From what I have read, the church elders “disciplined” Josh, whatever that means. But his father is also an elder, and there was some blame laid upon the victims as well...something along the lines of cautioning them to be modest. That advice is a joke considering the boy entered their rooms at night and forcibly fondled them while they were in bed.

The problems were indeed covered up. They were given a TV show to portray themselves as moral examples, and nothing was known about it until now. Only the Gothard cult and fellow members knew.

Also, the Gothard counseling material for sex abusers has become widely distributed online. It lays quite a bit of blame on the victim. It was said that Josh underwent counseling; if so, that’s what he would have received.


66 posted on 05/25/2015 12:06:38 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon

I suppose the girls slept suggestively. Vile Vixens.


67 posted on 05/25/2015 12:08:00 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Wow I’m sorry they should have told you first. They did not cover it up. This was to be handle privately. The only cover up is that the public was not inform about it. Well tough luck, like I said this is a private matter that should be handle privately and they did.

This happen before they had the show so why bother to bring up the past?

Also what wholesome image? They never said they were perfect. Anyone who watched their showed and think they were perfect got rocks in their head. I enjoyed their show, because they demonstrated self reliance, family, and Faith. I do not recall 1 episode where they said they were perfect.


68 posted on 05/25/2015 12:09:00 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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So you are saying that a criminal matter is to be handled internally? Based on what exactly?


69 posted on 05/25/2015 12:10:34 PM PDT by jimbo807
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Timeline. It was years before they “went to the authorities”. AFTER the statue of limitations had expired. And the authority was a pervert LEO who gave him a “stern talking to”.

The father brought the son to that state trooper back in 2003, immediately after the son returned from the three-month "treatment program." Click here for page 14 of the police report.

Then, in 2006, someone else found out what happened back in 2003, and that person called the police department (click here), which started an investigation. By then, the statute of limitations had expired (click here).

70 posted on 05/25/2015 12:11:13 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: CatherineofAragon
his father is also an elder, and there was some blame laid upon the victims as well...something along the lines of cautioning them to be modest.

Where did you see that information?

71 posted on 05/25/2015 12:12:24 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

So why was it not acted on when first “reported”? Maybe some good ole boy network?


72 posted on 05/25/2015 12:12:45 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs
>> The only evidence that he “became a new man” is the word of the Duggar family, and they are the ones who covered this up for over a decade while making millions off of their image as a wholesome, Christian family. So, pardon my skepticism. <<

Reminds me of why I refused to jump on the Newt bandwagon with the rest of the FR back in 2012, after Newt reinvented himself as a devout Catholic from Virginia.

73 posted on 05/25/2015 12:13:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: jimbo807

And the five year-old. Ugh.


74 posted on 05/25/2015 12:13:37 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Well she did sit on his lap in her nightie. Someone should have told her that was not modest.


75 posted on 05/25/2015 12:14:40 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Tired of Taxes
"Where did you see that information?"

I wish I could give you a source, but I've been reading different accounts over the past couple of days. I know I read that in more than one place.

76 posted on 05/25/2015 12:15:07 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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i think I might have lost a friend over this mess. She and I have been emailing back and forth since before 9/11. I told her what I thought of the Duggars, and she seems to have stopped speaking to me.

I really don’t get the worship of this family.


77 posted on 05/25/2015 12:17:07 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: jimbo807

Probably. Maybe he just wanted to teach the son a lesson by scaring him a little bit. I hope it worked.


78 posted on 05/25/2015 12:18:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: CatherineofAragon

I actually pity Josh in a way. He grew up in that stifling hellhole with no outlet. He went way to far with his desires, for whatever reason. That said, what is done cannot be undone.

Had Gothard had the good sense to recommend that young men be taken to the local whore house with 500 dollars, this may not have happened.


79 posted on 05/25/2015 12:19:54 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Tired of Taxes

It was 4th degree sexual assault. Are not Christians bound to obey the governing authorities? Why didn’t anyone involved contact CPS?


80 posted on 05/25/2015 12:21:06 PM PDT by jimbo807
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