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A second person accused Hastert of sexual abuse, official says
LATimes ^ | 5-29-2015 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 05/29/2015 7:06:44 PM PDT by bimboeruption

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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I believe my post was fairly clear but I will spell it out for you.

People that cannot be trusted to stand up for their beliefs have shown that they will not stand on principle. That does not mean they WILL do something in the future or that they will not. Only that they have shown they will compromise sincerely held beliefs if they think doing so will get them what they want.

Would you trust a banker or car salesman that promises you one rate then slaps you with another? No. Would you trust a preacher that preaches one thing on a sunday after a night in a bar drinking on Saturday? No. Would you trust a restraunt to serve you good food after they were busted for health violations? No. Would you trust a politician that flip flopped on abortion and immigration promising one thing and legislating another? Well you did but I wont.

So logically, why do you feel that a person that openly compromised their supposedly sincerely held beliefs wouldn’t do so again? They might, they might not. but you really can’t be sure since they proved they would do it already.

As to the rest, you all have been told bu many of us time and time again what the solution was and is. You vote for a conservative, not a liberal. You ‘might’ lose. If enough of us stuck to the beliefs, we would win. But by voting for liberals with magical R’s on their name you lose every time. You and America lost with Romney, you lost ‘winning with Mitch and Bhoner and you will lose when you refuse again to vote for a conservative when the GOP runs a liberal like Jeb or Rubio because you stupidly think that’s ‘winning’.

And lest you forget, most if not all of the sub-morons that already claimed on FR that “That’s it! Ted Cruz just lost my vote!” over the trade deal, marched their arses into the booth and voted for Romney, a man who was every bit the liberal Obama was with, (as shown by the voting records of the two while in office, Sen vs. Gov.), far more than one offense to his record...And they did it with no sense of shame or decency on their part at all.


101 posted on 05/31/2015 4:47:25 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I believe my post was fairly clear but I will spell it out for you.

You went through a lot of effort to get out of giving a "yes" or "no" answer, but it won't be that easy.

"Yes" or "no", do you believe that those of us who voted for Romney would knowingly vote for a pedophile? Qualify your answer any way you wish, but "yes" or "no".

Would you trust a politician that flip flopped on abortion and immigration promising one thing and legislating another? Well you did but I wont.

And you got the alternative.

As to the rest, you all have been told bu many of us time and time again what the solution was and is. You vote for a conservative, not a liberal. You ‘might’ lose. If enough of us stuck to the beliefs, we would win.

You can't be this delusional. The nation is roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 moderate, and 1/3 right, and the definition of moderate has been moving leftward for the past two decades. Given that, you review the 2012 election results, and show me how anyone other than Obama or Romney could have won.

And lest you forget, most if not all of the sub-morons that already claimed on FR that “That’s it! Ted Cruz just lost my vote!” over the trade deal, marched their arses into the booth and voted for Romney, a man who was every bit the liberal Obama was with, (as shown by the voting records of the two while in office, Sen vs. Gov.), far more than one offense to his record...And they did it with no sense of shame or decency on their part at all.

Apples and oranges. The choice in the 2012 general election was Obama or Romney. In the 2016 primaries, there are other Conservative candidates to choose from.

Besides, not all Freepers are sold on Cruz yet.

102 posted on 05/31/2015 9:18:15 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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