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A second person accused Hastert of sexual abuse, official says
LATimes ^ | 5-29-2015 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 05/29/2015 7:06:44 PM PDT by bimboeruption

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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The guy, Hastert, is clearly in deep here.

If he was diddling high school boys, he’s a homo. If he was doing it while their coach, he should be in prison.

Do try to defend what he did. I am willing to wait for the whole story to come out. But it doesn’t look good.


81 posted on 05/30/2015 4:36:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Bryan24

Does 34 years make what he did less creepy and disgusting?


82 posted on 05/30/2015 4:39:08 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: gusty

83 posted on 05/30/2015 4:56:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Norm Lenhart
I was being sarcastic as FR has a large contingent of GOpe that swear to vote GOP ‘no matter what’. So since one of their posterboys molesting kids falls under their ‘no matter what’. I imagine they will rush to defend him on that basis alone.

Oh come on! No Conservative who held their nose and voted for Romney as the lesser of two evils is going to defend a pedophile, even a Republican one.

What's your solution? Refuse to vote for any Republican who doesn't meet our Conservative standards 100% because they might also be pedophiles?

Those of us Conservatives who held our noses and voted for Romney will not cover for this. The perv has to pay for what he did, and our side shown it will take out the trash when we find them, even our own. It's bad enough to have to put up with this kind of slant from the left, without using it against each other.

84 posted on 05/30/2015 5:20:52 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Girlene

Since we have Freepers who have said as much, I take them at their word.


85 posted on 05/30/2015 5:39:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Refuse to vote for politicians who personally have records of advocating putting homosexuals with kids, or lowering the age of consent laws.

That would be Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney Both of whom were well known to people to whom shielding kids from gay predators long before their presidential campaigns.

That is not some “100 percent” agree with everything standard.
It is, however, making children safe a non negotiable issue.


86 posted on 05/30/2015 5:58:25 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

One hundred percent of Freepers who went beyond holding their nose and voting for Romney...and proceeded to insist that people who voted third party or write in because of the gays in the boy scouts thing have been advocating for pedophilia outright.

There is no way to dodge what they are doing.
You might put forth quibbles about what their motives might be, but their motives are irrelevant.


87 posted on 05/30/2015 6:16:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
Mitt Romney Both of whom were well known to people to whom shielding kids from gay predators

You have my attention. Do you have anything on this?

I checked around, and some homosexual activist sites were not impressed with Romney's record on homosexual rights. What do you have?

88 posted on 05/30/2015 6:19:00 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: MrEdd
One hundred percent of Freepers who went beyond holding their nose and voting for Romney...and proceeded to insist that people who voted third party or write in because of the gays in the boy scouts thing have been advocating for pedophilia outright.

Let's see some samples.

89 posted on 05/30/2015 6:36:58 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
During Romney's tenure as governor of Massachusetts there was a high profile case where a homosexual sued the boy scouts to be allowed to serve in his kid's troupe.

While on camera, a reporter ambushed Romney and asked which side he supported. Romney response was that if the homosexuals could get a bill on the matter through the legislature that he would sign it. You can still find the clip of this exchange on YouTube.

Romney later went on to institute homosexual marriage in Massachusetts by executive order.

And if you look at the department of education in Massachusetts, you find that it is the source for a lot of homosexual advocacy posing as education. A lot of the people who are creating this curriculum were appointed by ... wait for it ... Mitt Romney.

90 posted on 05/30/2015 6:41:43 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
I'd have to see it to believe it. They love them some pedophilia in the Republican Party, and they are glad they did their part to advance it.

If you are accusing FReepers of being happy to advance pedophilia....you are out of bounds.
91 posted on 05/30/2015 7:43:13 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Vermont Lt

I didn’t defend if and you know it. I am just not willing to lie about it either. Nor will I make things up. Nor will I defend blackmail as those this was services rendered.


92 posted on 05/30/2015 8:01:09 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Not saying you defended him. It is indefensible. I am not condoning blackmail either.

But, don’t think his security clearance background did not uncover this? People knew, and he was corrupted because of it. One has got to wonder if his taste for boys was satisfied as a young man...or if he just got smarter about getting them.

I am so tired of our politicians being perverts and corrupt pigs. They are ALL sullied by this.

No


93 posted on 05/30/2015 9:40:36 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MrEdd
During Romney's tenure as governor of Massachusetts there was a high profile case where a homosexual sued the boy scouts to be allowed to serve in his kid's troupe. While on camera, a reporter ambushed Romney and asked which side he supported. Romney response was that if the homosexuals could get a bill on the matter through the legislature that he would sign it. You can still find the clip of this exchange on YouTube.

I don't see why I have to prove your point, but I searched anyway. All I found was a clip of him waffling on the issue here. He supported the right of the Boy Scouts to choose their policy, but thought all should be welcome.

Romney later went on to institute homosexual marriage in Massachusetts by executive order.

As governor, Romney faced challenge on gay marriage

And if you look at the department of education in Massachusetts, you find that it is the source for a lot of homosexual advocacy posing as education. A lot of the people who are creating this curriculum were appointed by ... wait for it ... Mitt Romney.

On this, I am going to call on you to prove your point. Who were they, and what did they push for?

94 posted on 05/30/2015 9:55:30 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Ken H

“He is also charged with ‘structuring’ the withdrawals to avoid reporting requirements under federal law.”

I have a big problem with that law. I can “structure” perfectly legal withdrawals so that I don’t have to do Federal paperwork. If the Feds see the transactions and come asking me what I am doing, I should not have to tell them anything I have broken no laws. I have simply avoided the $10,000 transaction limit and eliminated extra paperwork.

If the Feds ask me why, I should have no obligation to tell them anything. It is none of their business. For them to be able to charge me with “structuring” and “obstruction of justice” is ludicrous.


95 posted on 05/30/2015 2:27:32 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Why not? They threw other supposedly ironclad beliefs out the door to vote for a liberal that has a record documentably more liberal than Barry did as a Senator. So considering they thoroughly compromised such strongly keld beliefs, lying to themselves in the process, why is it so hard to think that people that screamed ‘no matter what’ couldn’t do it again?

Don’t get mad at me for pointing out that simple truth folks. The moral relativism of phrase ‘no matter what’ means exactly that. So either they were lying about that too, or they were not. It is what it is. If they didn’t mean ‘no matter what’ then they shouldn’t have spent 2 election cycles reinforcing moral relativism and to this very day, calling people traitors to America, haters of their country, Obama supporters and the rest of the crap we had to listen to for the hideous crime of refusing to help them inject more liberals into governmental power with a magical “R” attached.


96 posted on 05/30/2015 2:32:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
The moral relativism of phrase ‘no matter what’ means exactly that.

Are you accusing those who voted for the perv (assuming he's guilty) did so knowing about this?

If they didn’t mean ‘no matter what’ then they shouldn’t have spent 2 election cycles reinforcing moral relativism and to this very day, calling people traitors to America, haters of their country, Obama supporters and the rest of the crap we had to listen to for the hideous crime of refusing to help them inject more liberals into governmental power with a magical “R” attached.

And what solution did any of you offer that wouldn't result in another four years of Obama? Although I asked many times, your side never offered an option that didn't make it easier for Obama to win.

97 posted on 05/30/2015 3:59:23 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Bryan24

It’s a legacy from the drug war. Hastert was a big time supporter. No sympathy at all.


98 posted on 05/30/2015 7:35:22 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I fail to see the connection. At all.


99 posted on 05/30/2015 8:37:10 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
The Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 (or BSA, or otherwise known as the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act) requires financial institutions in the United States to assist U.S. government agencies to detect and prevent money laundering.

Specifically, the act requires financial institutions to keep records of cash purchases of negotiable instruments, and file reports of cash purchases of these negotiable instruments of more than $10,000 (daily aggregate amount), and to report suspicious activity that might signify money laundering, tax evasion, or other criminal activities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

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Hastart was a big time supporter of the drug war, and the BSA of 1970 is part of that. It's called being hoist on his own petard.

100 posted on 05/31/2015 2:28:37 AM PDT by Ken H
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