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Why Donald Trump should not be taken seriously or included in the debates
Club for Growth ^ | 06/16/2015 | Doug Sachtleben

Posted on 06/16/2015 5:22:09 PM PDT by GIdget2004

Donald Trump, in his own words…

Trump on Health Care “We must have universal healthcare,” Trump wrote in his book, “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one.” In an interview earlier this year he continued to applaud single payer health care systems used in other countries.

Trump on Taxes “I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million,” Trump said. “For individuals, net worth would be calculated minus the value of their principal residence. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt.”

Trump on Trade Trump has called for “a 20% tax for importing goods,” and a “Twenty-five percent tax on China, unless they behave.”

Trump on Eminent Domain When asked about the 2005 case Kelo v. City of New London, that allowed economic development to be a legitimate reason for government to exercise eminent domain, Trump told Fox News (7/19/05), “I happen to agree with it 100 percent.” Trump was unsuccessful in his own attempt to have officials in New Jersey use eminent domain to condemn a home on property he wanted to buy for part of his hotel and casino.

(Excerpt) Read more at clubforgrowth.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; clubfortherich; donaldchump; donaldhump; donaldtrump; election2016; trump
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To: Husker8877

And the Huskers of this site and the world will run bleating to the nearest cult of personality star to save them from evil conservatives.

You (in the general liberal freeper sense) did it with Mitt, You did it with Jonbon and Mitch and you’ll do it with Trump. If any of you expended the effort you do trying to get a conservative elected as you do promoting the next great fraud on FR, we would have a gonservative president today.


201 posted on 06/16/2015 10:58:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GIdget2004
I've seen this movie

It was called Ross Perot - take away about 12% of the vote when you declare as an independent and poof - another Clinton

Trump is all about the Trump brand and he has contributed to the Clinton library and foundation

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202 posted on 06/16/2015 11:14:20 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Jarhead9297
Oops!

lol!

203 posted on 06/16/2015 11:28:24 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: ozarkgirl

“...stirring things up. It’s a good thing.”

Amen

I am particularly interested in seeing how he addresses the Moslem problem.


204 posted on 06/17/2015 12:46:15 AM PDT by VMI70
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To: VMI70

Given his statements with the Pamela Geller situation, I would not get too excited: http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/donald-trump-faults-draw-mohammad-event-organizer-for-taunting-muslims/


205 posted on 06/17/2015 12:50:00 AM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: GIdget2004

The Donald is a worthless baboon!


206 posted on 06/17/2015 1:00:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Fungi
Trump is the modern day Perot.

Please don't insult the little general from Plano.

207 posted on 06/17/2015 1:14:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I think the premise is absurd. Trump was polling lower than Cruz. To think that Trump would spend the time and resources to get into a race just to displace a candidate who is in 7th polling position is just silly.

The top 10 candidates will be included in the debates. If Ted Cruz can’t get enough traction to poll within the top 10, there is no way he will be nominated anyway much less win against whomever the rats nominate.

FR isn’t representative of the public at large: Ted Cruz isn’t that popular outside of very conservative circles. That he is polling about 7th amongst gop voters is an indication of that.


208 posted on 06/17/2015 2:33:14 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

That’s too bad. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are two who have the best handle on the existential threat that is Islam.


209 posted on 06/17/2015 2:55:24 AM PDT by VMI70
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To: kevao
Tariffs are tricky because they create price distortions in the market. Prices should ideally reflect only people’s production and consumption preferences.

US companies shutting down their US factories and idling 100's if not thousands of workers so they can exploit virtual slave labor and re import back duty free into the USA is causing real distortions too. To make matters worse for domestic competitiveness there is a "duty" on US labor in the form of income taxes.

210 posted on 06/17/2015 4:03:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

What are the inputs to the products of these companies that are fleeing the US? Are those inputs more expensive here because of import tariffs we’ve imposed?

People are so quick to think that import tariffs are automatically good for *everybody* behind the protectionist wall. There are domestic manufacturers who *suffer* when we impose tariffs to protect domestic industries, because it increases the prices of certain of their inputs.

There are always two sides to everything —

US dollar strengthens: Domestic sellers say, Yeah! Exporters say, Shit!

US dollar weakens: Domestic sellers say, Shit! Exporters say, Yeah!

Seems nobody at all is capable of anything more than the most superficial (what are the immediate effects?) analysis. Is everybody so lazy they can’t think through the “And then what?” scenarios?


211 posted on 06/17/2015 4:27:32 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

Well some how the USA managed to create wealth at a spectacular rate up until the 1960’s when trade was a tiny portion of the GDP < 5%. How did we ever manage that? You assume gloBULLism and one sided Free trade is a given good with no losers. I question your whole premise.


212 posted on 06/17/2015 4:30:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Well some how the USA managed to create wealth at a spectacular rate up until the 1960’s when trade was a tiny portion of the GDP < 5%.

Well there's part of your confusion right there. Trade has always been 100% of our GDP, by definition. What you meant to say is, *foreign* trade was a tiny portion of our GDP. And foreign trade as a % of GDP is still far overshadowed by domestic trade.

For thousands of years the economic history of mankind was one long flat-line. Life sucked really bad for pretty much everybody. Then suddenly a group of countries, mostly in Western Europe and particularly the United States, took off; and a really shitty existence was replaced by relative opulence. Why?

That was Adam Smith's curiosity in 1776, when he wrote "An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations." He wanted to know why some nations were rich and other nations poor....I'm not going to give you an exegesis of Smith's work here, because you should read it yourself. But, spoiler alert: It was trade!

Just imagine a world without trade. How well would you, or any of the rest of us, get along? Grow your own food, make your own clothes, build your own house....What about a car? Where to get the parts? Maybe just a wagon and a horse. But where to get a horse, unless you can trade something for it. Trade? What's that?

213 posted on 06/17/2015 6:13:26 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao
What crap. I believe the 300 million people occupying the better part of an entire continent can be self sufficient in just about every way. When you import goods, you also import the standard of living of the country you import from, for worst most of the time.
214 posted on 06/17/2015 6:17:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Happy Clinton!

Once again, you and your crew will very conscientiously elect one of your very own.


215 posted on 06/17/2015 6:37:03 AM PDT by Husker8877
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To: central_va
What crap. I believe the 300 million people occupying the better part of an entire continent can be self sufficient in just about every way.

LMAO!!! You are pulling my leg, aren't you? I mean, just one obvious example:

Tell your self-sufficiency theory to Singapore, a tiny little island country with basically ZERO natural resources, 5.5 million people, the third most densely populated tract of land on the planet. Yet, their standard of living is exponentially beyond the wildest dreams of many basket-case countries with fortunes in natural resources.

By the way, most of those resource-rich, yet scandalously poor, basket-case countries have one thing in common -- they're closed, protectionist economies....

216 posted on 06/17/2015 6:44:18 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao
Are you mentally handicapped? Are you saying the USA could not be self sufficient? Are you stupid. In our case Free Trade is a choice, the USA is not Lichtenstein.

All counties are not the same, all political systems are not the same but somehow text book marco economics is supposed to apply to all nations equally. Drop your text book antics, we are adults here.

217 posted on 06/17/2015 6:48:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kevao
By the way, most of those resource-rich, yet scandalously poor, basket-case countries have one thing in common -- they're closed, protectionist economies....

They are corrupt Kleptocracies. Trade has nothing to do with it.

I wish you'd stop comparing the USA to the third world it really reveals what you really think of the USA. Sad and pathetic.

218 posted on 06/17/2015 6:51:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: South40

And some are all too willing to do just that.

Remind me again...why did I, until recently, labor under the belief that conservatives were thinking individuals?


219 posted on 06/17/2015 7:02:04 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: odawg
"You’ll need to explain that one. An assertion doesn’t prove itself."

What happened to your vow not to post to me anymore? You didn't even last twenty-four hours, LOL.

You need to learn to read. I didn't make the assertion.

Elsewhere you were screeching about Ted Cruz's failure to welcome Trump to the race, until someone posted you a link to Cruz's cordial welcome.

Might be a good idea to read the forum more carefully before going off on tangents.

220 posted on 06/17/2015 7:08:34 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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