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Charleston Mother Emanuel AME Church Shooting – Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 18, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch

A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race.  If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

The number one objective of everyone in law enforcement should be to catch the mass murder suspect and bring him to trial.  As currently described that suspect is: “A 21-year-old, white male, with sandy blonde hair, clean shaven, wearing Timberland boots, jeans and a grey hoodie“.  Every resource should be deployed to catch that criminal.

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing.   Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


Unfortunately, this horrible event will focus attention in many divergent directions based solely on the current environment permeating the national dialogue; and as a consequence of manipulative activists who relish anxiety to advance their various causes.

For those who have intensely followed the evolution of that manipulation for the past several years, the brutal event in Charlotte carries a set of additional aspects which ring immediate alarm bells.   Taken individually none of the aspects seem too controversial; however, when you put them together something else begins to assemble.

WIPING CLEAR THE WHITE BOARD – Just the facts:

♦  One of the first set of facts about the event that is immediately recognizable is the location, the Mother Emanuel AME Church of Charlotte.

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There are 10 AME churches within a mile in any direction of the Emanuel AME church.  The shooter chose this specific one.

Anyone who has spent time deconstructing fraudulent racial narratives over the past few years will immediately recognize, and admit, the AME church network is the most politically -and racially- connected network of affiliates in the nation.

The AME network is the faith based power structure for the professional Black Grievance Industry.

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• When Pigford I and Pigford II claims were constructed, publicized and paid, it was the AME network who did the heavy lifting to promote the programs on behalf of their constituents – entirely along racial lines.

• When Sanford Florida was organizing their activism against the city and justice system, in the Trayvon Martin shooting, it was the AME church network who organized the community – entirely along racial lines.

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• When Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin did their coast to coast tour to promote Justice for Trayvon with Reverend Al Sharpton, it was the AME church network that hosted the events and filled the trashcans with contributions.

• When Ferguson riots broke out, it was the AME church network who were at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

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• When the Baltimore riots broke out, it was again the AME church network, Reverend Jamal Bryant, who was at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

The AME church network, and the associated leadership within the construct, is extremely politically connected.   Many of the social justice warriors, the social engineers, the social activists, weave in and out of the AME affiliations as needed; including activist financier Russell Simmons – entirely along racial lines.

In short the national AME church network is a powerful and political activist forum based solely and completely along racial lines.  Decades of influence, and decades of organizational activism has left them sparsely connected to their religious, or faith based, origins.  The AME larger network is now almost exclusively a political enterprise operating under the guise of Methodist Episcopal faith-based teaching.

♦  Coincidentally, or not, yesterday Hillary Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina, North Charleston specifically, for this very specific constituency.   The pastor of the exact church selected by the gunman was at a campaign event with Hillary for this purpose.

On a campaign stop in the city Wednesday, Clinton spoke passionately about police violence, calling Scott’s death a “terrible tragedy.” She left the city before the shooting occurred, a campaign aide confirmed.

Pastor Pinckney returned after the event to the AME church, where Bible study was underway Wednesday around 9:00 p.m. local time when the shooting occurred (link)

Pastor Clementa C. Pinckney (42) was one of the shooting victims, as reported by media.

BREAKING: State Sen. & Rev. Clementa Pinckney Among Shooting Victims at Charleston Church - http://t.co/vuiOxFg43L pic.twitter.com/M5wvYRPjQY

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network we can expect this horrific shooting to be magnified by infinite magnitudes amid those who are skilled in the dark arts of professional grievance and race-based activism.

Rev. Clements Pinckney, a SC legislator is among the 9 killed in SC church. I am reminded that he helped lead our prayer vigil for Scott.

— Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) June 18, 2015

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network of political influence we can also expect this horrific shooting to be amplified by responses of those who hold political office from coast to coast.

And when you add into the mix the current climate of racial division being utilized by the media and the professionally aggrieved for profit and ideological advancement you can begin to see how explosive the situation will be in the days, weeks and possibly even months to come.

Much of that anticipatory outcome we previously outlined, even before last nights’ horrific events, in the predictive discussions around Baltimore (Freddie Gray) and North Charleston (Walter Scott). ~ HERE ‘Danger Will Robinson’

That is why capturing this shooter is of paramount importance.  There is much at stake if our nation is to head off a summer of race-based anxiety, pushing toward violence.  And it bothers us that President Obama and Eric Holder intentionally allowed Ferguson to burn after they knew on August 18th 2014, within 10 days of the Mike Brown shooting, the evidence supported Officer Darren Wilson 100%.

THE SHOOTING – A young man walks into a church and successfully shoots and kills 9 people, intentionally leaving a single person to bear witness.  Why?

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If this report is factually true, surely people will begin to wonder “why”.  What possible benefit (to the shooter) is there to leaving a witness?  Why would the shooter be committed to leaving a witness “so she could tell everyone what happened“?  Who benefits?

Assuming the man was not holding a semi-automatic long gun, which would have alarmed the congregants, we can essentially conclude he was in possession of a handgun of sorts.

Successfully shooting, and killing, 9 out of 10 people – with a handgun – and no surviving victims, is considerably more difficult than is seen via Hollywood or TV.  People run quickly in the face of threats, people move, people generally scatter.

Successfully disappearing after the event, and evading capture, is even more alarming.

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The police Chief, Gregory Mullen, stated the shooting began at 9:05pm.   By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

The same police chief immediately identified the shooting as a “hate crime”; we can assume based on information provided by the surviving witness.

Mullen also said the shooter was “21-years-old”, and wearing “Timberland” boots.  Again, two very specific identifiable details inferring witness ID.

An unconfirmed source said there was a meeting of AME network leadership prior to the Bible Study which began at 9:05pm.  The shooter had to anticipate a gathering of sorts, which implies local affiliation, or extensive research into the venue.   A quick review of the Emanuel AME calendar on their website would not identify any event, and their Facebook page has not been updated since February 11th, 2015.

If we assume the racist/terrorist motive, which we have no reason not to, how did the shooter know he would find his victims at 9:00pm – in this specific location?

Lots of questions, and if they don’t ID a suspect quickly – it would appear to be very thought out, disciplined, and professionally executed.   Yet the shooter went to the non-professional trouble of intentionally leaving a witness to ID him.  It seems like there’s a bigger agenda in here.

All very troubling.

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To: EBH

Anything, and everything is a possibility at this point...

Smarter people with more information than we have are all over this...

We will see very soon where this is coming from...


61 posted on 06/18/2015 5:09:50 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: USS Alaska

62 posted on 06/18/2015 5:11:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Maybe he is white and *identified* with blacks....no one in the MSM will fault him for that.

[I use the term *he*, but maybe it’s a *she* self-identifying as a he.]


63 posted on 06/18/2015 5:14:08 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: Daffynition
Via: weaselzippers.
64 posted on 06/18/2015 5:18:08 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Kozak

65 posted on 06/18/2015 5:20:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

A keeper! HAHAHA!

THX for the laughs.


66 posted on 06/18/2015 5:22:27 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: Daffynition

Watch: Stunning Video Just Surfaced Of Rachel Dolezal In Baltimore Fanning The Flames

Randy DeSoto June 17, 2015 at 12:56pm

A video has surfaced showing Rachel Dolezal, the former head of the Spokane, Washington, NAACP chapter, participating in a protest against police brutality in Baltimore last month

http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-video-just-surfaced-of-imposter-rachel-dolezal-speaking-with-baltimore-protesters/


67 posted on 06/18/2015 5:28:10 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Former Proud Canadian

You are correct...

I say again, who stands to benefit from all of this???


68 posted on 06/18/2015 5:28:57 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s fine with me. Tragic that these people didn’t have someone prepared for trouble at this meeting who could have dealt with this @$$h01e.


69 posted on 06/18/2015 5:30:48 AM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: All

Is that a “fanny pack” hanging down in the front of the shooters pants???


70 posted on 06/18/2015 5:31:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: equaviator

It will be something if the perp turns out to be a light skinned Negro wearing a wig.

Sharpton would skee-daddle back to New York as fast as his little BGI feet could carry him.


71 posted on 06/18/2015 5:33:04 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: OKSooner
Another shooting in a "GUN-FREE ZONE"
72 posted on 06/18/2015 5:39:55 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Why security cameras and nobody packing? Hmmmmmmmm. veeeery interesting.


73 posted on 06/18/2015 5:42:07 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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74 posted on 06/18/2015 5:44:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Old Sarge
Thanks.

Just happened across this today: http://gawker.com/5912132/are-you-prepared-for-the-race-war.

75 posted on 06/18/2015 5:44:35 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: Travis McGee

Traceable to Prof. Raoul?


76 posted on 06/18/2015 5:45:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Hard to imagine your regular mass shooter type was involved in this.

How so? Mass shooters right regularly seek glory and fame. Even the suicidal ones will go on and on in their diaries or whatever about how their name will be in lights and fill people with fear for decades, et cetera. Plenty of mass shooters have deliberately left survivors; the Columbine duo left a boatload of them.

77 posted on 06/18/2015 5:47:48 AM PDT by Amity
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To: KeyLargo
Interesting, on Charleston, DC "letterhead," with instructions to call the FBI.

What makes this a federal case?

78 posted on 06/18/2015 5:47:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Old Sarge

I agree with your assessment;. no wounded = professional ‘hit’ (could be anything from other-country-sponsored to hitman/hired gun)


79 posted on 06/18/2015 5:52:42 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Cboldt

“Interesting, on Charleston, DC “letterhead,” with instructions to call the FBI.

What makes this a federal case?”

FBI

Home • About Us • What We Investigate • Civil Rights • Hate Crimes • Overview

Hate Crime—Overview

Investigating hate crime is the number one priority of our Civil Rights Program. Why? Not only because hate crime has a devastating impact on families and communities, but also because groups that preach hatred and intolerance plant the seeds of terrorism here in our country.

Defining a Hate Crime

A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.
Defining a Hate Crime
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties. Burned church

FBI Jurisdiction

A hate crime is not a distinct federal offense. However, the federal government can and does investigate and prosecute crimes of bias as civil rights violations, which do fall under its jurisdiction. These efforts serve as a backstop for state and local authorities, which handle the vast majority of hate crime cases. A 1994 federal law also increased penalties for offenses proven to be hate crimes.

In 2009, the passage of a new law—the first significant expansion of federal criminal civil rights law since the mid-1990s—gave the federal government the authority to prosecute violent hate crimes, including violence and attempted violence directed at the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community, to the fullest extent of its jurisdiction. The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act also provides funding and technical assistance to state, local, and tribal jurisdictions to help them to more effectively investigate, prosecute, and prevent hate crimes.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/overview


80 posted on 06/18/2015 5:58:30 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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