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Va. Gov. moves to strip Confederate flag from license plates
WTOP ^ | 06/23/2015 | WTOP Staff

Posted on 06/23/2015 8:16:14 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: GIdget2004

Another idiot.


81 posted on 06/23/2015 9:39:31 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: DiogenesLamp

SCOTUS said that the state should have final say on what was appropriate for personalized license plates. Everything that I’ve ever seen regarding personalized license plates has affirmed that they have the discretion to determine what is appropriate and what is not. Propriety is a subjective critter and there are always going to be those who don’t get what they want.

If you choose to see this as a Niemöller moment then buckle up buddy because you ain’t seen nothing yet.


82 posted on 06/23/2015 9:48:42 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SamAdams76

People of the South, the Left is going to hang this albatross around your necks.

I know it’s not right and my experience has been that most Southerners are polite and tolerant towards others. As well, I’ve seen more hate and intolerance here in the Northeast.

But this crazy redneck, shooting up that church, has done irreparable damage to the image of Southerners, who are mostly good people, and that’s a shame.


The flag didn’t kill those people...the gun didn’t kill those people, evil did. Would you want to be a candidate in 2016 running for office having supported this meaningless gesture, “feel good” moment of voting to remove a flag from the public square? Think where this argument leads them. This was a deranged, evil, young man that committed this heinous crime. What happens when it is another deranged, evil, young man that does it wrapped in the U.S. Flag? Instead of standing up to bullying (on the part of liberals, media, etc.) and calling evil for what it is and failing to speak out on the continuation of failed policies on poverty, education, the breakdown of the family and culture, feckless politicians take the expedient path to what they think (in the case of Republican politicians)will lead to the “other side” liking them more. We have ISIS running amok in the Middle East, our borders are pourous, Russia and Nato gearing up for a renewed Cold War, China thumbing their nose at us in the Pacific (not to mention owning our debt), Iran laughing at us as we cede ground continually on nuclear negotiations, and an economy that is at zero GDP and a false unemployment rate, and we’re all atwitter about a “flag”. Rome truly is burning...


83 posted on 06/23/2015 9:55:29 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: DiogenesLamp

We are being stampeded into Gleichschaltung by the Liberal Media propaganda soldiers.
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link.


84 posted on 06/23/2015 10:06:39 AM PDT by Canedawg (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: GIdget2004
Just go back to this:


85 posted on 06/23/2015 10:10:19 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: rockrr

>SCOTUS said that the state should have final say on what was appropriate for personalized license plates.<

The state implies a legislative body, not just a governor.


86 posted on 06/23/2015 10:11:20 AM PDT by Darnright (No, We Love Yeshua (Jesus).)
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To: tanknetter

“The 1950s and 60s Civil Rights Movement was great with this. The Bus Boycott was planned long before Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat. In fact, there was a previous candidate, a young girl who did the same before Parks. Unfortunately for her she was pregnant out of wedlock, so the Civil Rights leaders dropped her and waited for a better candidate. Who they got in Parks.”

I read a book about the 50s. There were several chapters about the civil rights movement that mentioned what you described. MLK and the other leaders knew that if they just waited that eventually somebody would do something so horrific that it made staying neutral impossible.
The book also mentioned that the civil rights leaders looked for situations that had an easy to hate villain, like Bull Conner or Lawrence Rainey.


87 posted on 06/23/2015 10:12:53 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: GIdget2004

Remember folks, Old Glory is next.


88 posted on 06/23/2015 10:16:19 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Darnright

Good point. I don’t know the current makeup of their legislature. Perhaps there’s an upset in her future?


89 posted on 06/23/2015 10:18:27 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

>I don’t know the current makeup of their legislature. Perhaps there’s an upset in her future?<

One would think. In SC’s case, the flag was moved not that long ago to the memorial, because of the flap at that point in time. Now, the goalpost has been moved to putting the flag “in a museum”. Given time, will the goalpost be further moved to eliminating it from any museum, in order to salve the tender sensibilities of the Perpetually Offended?


90 posted on 06/23/2015 10:31:32 AM PDT by Darnright (No, We Love Yeshua (Jesus).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

No, no change of heart, but it is a pretty stupid topic. I can’t defend flying the old Stars and Bars over a government building in the Union, but at the same time, it’s ludicrous to act like this dopey issue of the flag going to solve racism in either direction.


91 posted on 06/23/2015 10:34:49 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on; CatherineofAragon
No one on the plotting Left--as opposed to the "useful idiot" Left, really believes that this has anything to do with "racism." It is all about ratcheting up the effort to suppress anything in the Southern, American or Western Tradition, that rooted Americans can rally around to reverse the descent into a monolithic Socialist/Egalitarian society.

This was also, you may recall, part of the ratcheting up that took place in the 1999 through 2002, effort.

It is terribly difficult for Conservatives, who--however we may differ among ourselves as to particular priorities--still recognize the need for some sort of moral compass; to really understand the hatred--not idealism or altruism--but pure hatred that drives the Egalitarian/Collectivist in the war on reality. But none of these antics will ever make any sense until one realizes that that is indeed the driving mechanism.

92 posted on 06/23/2015 10:49:40 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: minnesota_bound

How is the Confederate flag have anything to do with the shooting? Will the tv show “Dukes of Hazard” be banned too? Will they change the car using special effects? <<<<<<<<<<<

Exactly. I was wondering if “Pawn Stars” will be precluded from dealing in Confederate artifacts and collectibles? Surely “Gone With The Wind” should be banned, as well. Soon the history books will be wiped clean of everything that offends anybody or could incite a nutcase to commit multiple murders.

I see the MSM has handily forgotten the shooters a few years back on the East coast who took out multiple people on the interstates, at store parking lots and at gas stations. Oh, wait, they were not crazed white shooters.


93 posted on 06/23/2015 10:54:59 AM PDT by Mjaye
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To: rockrr
SCOTUS said that the state should have final say on what was appropriate for personalized license plates. Everything that I’ve ever seen regarding personalized license plates has affirmed that they have the discretion to determine what is appropriate and what is not. Propriety is a subjective critter and there are always going to be those who don’t get what they want.

And you are either so cognitively unaware that you are incapable of understanding the big picture, or you are deliberately ignoring the free speech/equal protection aspect of this.

The state can no more prohibit one sort of speech than they can another, and they are obligated by the 14th amendment to treat everyone equally under the law.

They don't get to exercise "discretion" when it comes to freedom of speech on public property. There is no "permitted" speech, and "prohibited" speech.

And your argument "The supreme court says so" is just a variation on the theme of "might makes right", which come to think of it, seems to be your answer for a lot of other sorts of tyranny as well.

Are you sure you belong on a conservative web site? The Liberals are the ones who generally advocate the totalitarian stuff.

94 posted on 06/23/2015 10:55:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Canedawg
Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link.

You're welcome. People need to know about their methods, their intentions, and even their unintended consequences.

95 posted on 06/23/2015 10:59:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Ohioan

Someone pointed out something interesting about Dylann Roof’s lunatic “manifesto” that was found online after the shooting. In it he decried the fact that “there is no skinhead or KKK presense in Charleston.”

Imagine that. In the cradle of the confederacy this loon was not able to find kindred spirits for his basic garden variety racism. If that’s not progress then what is?


96 posted on 06/23/2015 11:14:35 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: DiogenesLamp
LOL, fortunately it isn't up to the "discretion" of dimple-brains like you as to who stays and who goes at FreeRepublic.

But by golly you may have a point (besides the one on top of your noggin). In reviewing the Virginia state statutes (you see, I'm kinda funny about the rule of law vs. your feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings) it looks like there may be a loophole that you might be able to squeeze through (I hope you don't get stuck with your huge cranium).

Virginia code:

§ 46.2-726. License plates with reserved numbers or letters; fees.

The Commissioner may, in his discretion, reserve license plates with certain registration numbers or letters or combinations thereof for issuance to persons requesting license plates so numbered and lettered.

But specific to the SCV plates they forgot to include the discretion language:

§ 46.2-746.22. Special license plates; members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

On receipt of an application therefor and written evidence that the applicant is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the Commissioner shall issue special license plates to members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. No logo or emblem of any description shall be displayed or incorporated into the design of license plates issued under this section.

(1999, c. 902.)

There, I've done your footwork for you - now you can file suit with the state of Virginia and demand your "confederate" plates.

Good luck Don Quixote!

97 posted on 06/23/2015 11:59:52 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

I’m not going to read your response because you don’t actually have one.


98 posted on 06/23/2015 12:01:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: mikey_hates_everything
Just go back to this:

That would actually be a fair and equitable solution. The "State" would not be promoting one type of speech over another.

99 posted on 06/23/2015 12:05:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Cowboy Bob
This whole flag issue - which popped up out of nowhere, is designed to split the Republican Party before the next elections.

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My disappointment is in the southern Republican politicians who are so scared to be called racists that they throw their fellow citizens under the bus.

"Behold the power of this fully operational Liberal Media Death Star!"

Smash the Liberal media. There is no other way to save the country.

100 posted on 06/23/2015 12:08:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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