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Judicial activism on marriage isn’t the end — here’s what to do now
Boston Globe ^ | 6/27/15 | Ryan T Anderson

Posted on 06/27/2015 9:55:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper
Here you go:

Let every man/woman married couple sign a post-nuptial agreement regarding assets and taxes and get a divorce to make the word marriage meaningless. Then the above renew their wedding vows/commitment in front of whoever will witness. Why the States were ever given the power to "license" marriage is questionable to me.

I married my wife because it was part of her family's old time traditions, values, and expectations. She was surprised when I proposed because we both agree we loved and respected and liked each other enough to spend our lives together without the permission of any government.

Let the gays now own the term marriage. If my suggestion were to go large scale, bet the gays would find marriage not as sacrosanct and start to wonder why they bothered. Of course, I'm dreaming, but still we need a new term for heterosexual life commitments.

Co-commitment (CC)
Hetero-partners (HP)
Life Partners (LP)
Ties That Bind (TTB)
Man And Woman Partner (MAWP)...har!
Heart Association of Heter-sexuals (HAT)...killing myself here

C'mon Freepers, give us some short simple wording that works with an abbreviation. Let's show these demanding LBGT's we don't need their "marriage" word - we now have our own.

21 posted on 06/27/2015 11:22:03 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: central_va; Publius
Asked and answered many times but I'll happily 'splain it to you again ;')

When the individual states assembled and joined into a union they confirmed upon that collective union of states certain powers. Those powers were more closely enumerated and defined when we met again to ratify the Constitution. That's the way the country was wired, first in 1777 with the Articles of Confederation, and again in 1788 with the ratification of the United States Constitution.

Article I (Article 1 - Legislative) of the Constitution spells out duties and responsibilities of Congress.

Section 10

1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

Thus no states may enter into independent confederacies - only Congress possesses that authority.

Article II (Article 2 - Executive) establishes the role of the executive (president).

Article III (Article 3 - Judicial) defines the duties and responsibilities of the judicial branch - essentially the Supreme Court.

Section 2

1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State —between Citizens of different States, —between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Thus the Constitution grants the Supreme Court (the collective states) authority and jurisdiction over disputes between states.

Article IV (Article 4 - States' Relations) defines the relationship of the states to the whole.

Section 3

1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Thus it is up to Congress to admit or expel states. In the event of a circumstance such as happened with West Virginia, it is up to Congress plus the affected states to make such a division. Individual states do not possess the authority to do so - not legally at any rate.

To recap: yes it is a case of the federal government telling the states what they can and cannot do - that is the way the law was designed. No, it doesn't go against the 10th amendment because the Constitution granted the appropriate powers to both the Congress to define and organize the states and to the Supreme Court to adjudicate disputes between the states.

Glad I could help.



22 posted on 06/27/2015 11:30:22 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: A Navy Vet

abbreviation = acronym.


23 posted on 06/27/2015 11:50:30 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I was surprised Roberts could spell “Constitution”.


24 posted on 06/27/2015 11:53:26 AM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I wanted a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: rockrr
Your post


25 posted on 06/27/2015 11:56:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Appealingly you do not know my reputation around here.


26 posted on 06/27/2015 11:58:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

And that was one of your better efforts.


27 posted on 06/27/2015 11:58:10 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Federal Government has become a scourge on the people of these otherwise United States of America. It is far past the time to abolish it and form a more perfect union. Congressman, Senator, President, Justice. These terms have become a sad joke. Unfortunately the joke is on us.


28 posted on 06/27/2015 12:01:05 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: A Navy Vet

Have U seen the New LGBTwatever flag ???

Rainbow as usual,, and says FU ! Fudgepackers Unite !


29 posted on 06/27/2015 12:03:06 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: litehaus
See my post above about a new name for hetero couples' marriage. I'm also good with a new flag for same.

Got Photoshop? I'm not all that good, so go for it.

30 posted on 06/27/2015 12:26:11 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: rockrr
"Thus it is up to Congress to admit or expel states. In the event of a circumstance such as happened with West Virginia, it is up to Congress plus the affected states to make such a division. Individual states do not possess the authority to do so - not legally at any rate."

Silly me. I was under the impression that our government derived it's just powers from the consent of the governed. What we now have are political machines that don't give a damned about what the citizens think. As a matter of fact they have done their best to dumb them down to keep them nice and complacent. Gee, what could possibly go wrong here?

31 posted on 06/27/2015 12:26:24 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: rockrr
Thus it is up to Congress to admit or expel states. In the event of a circumstance such as happened with West Virginia, it is up to Congress plus the affected states to make such a division. Individual states do not possess the authority to do so - not legally at any rate.

I like your choice of words. Couldn't a conservative Congress pass a bill, to be signed by a conservative president, expelling specific states from the Union? My nominees for expulsion:

List 1 - everyone but Texas and a small number of other states, perhaps UT, ID, WY, OK, and others who overwhelmingly rejected Obama's socialism and who request expulsion.

List 2 - the states that gave Obama 55% or more support in 2012, when they should have known better. IL, CT, NJ, DE, ME, CA, MA, MD, RI, NY, VT, HI, and DC.

The practical effect of expulsion is equivalent to secession, but the legal status may be far prettier. Besides, I don't think the sissies on the left have the guts to fight a war just to keep us under their thumbs. The thugs on the left would be too happy to have free access to their undefended subjects in their set of states, and wouldn't bother with free and armed Americans.

32 posted on 06/27/2015 12:44:13 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: central_va

No I don’t. Nor do I care.


33 posted on 06/27/2015 1:02:16 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Desron13
I was under the impression that our government derived it's just powers from the consent of the governed.

It is. If you don't care for its construction then you vote in people more to your liking.

34 posted on 06/27/2015 1:29:01 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Judicial activism on marriage isn’t the end — here’s what to do now..."

YIPPY SKIPPY! I'm actually a black woman trapped in a white man's body. Where's my EBT card? By the way, my name is now Leticia.

35 posted on 06/27/2015 1:29:18 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... THAT’S RACIST!


36 posted on 06/27/2015 1:41:48 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Pollster1
I like your choice of words. Couldn't a conservative Congress pass a bill, to be signed by a conservative president, expelling specific states from the Union?

Theoretically - yes. Practically - never happen. I know of a lot of southerners who would love to be on that list right about now ;')

37 posted on 06/27/2015 1:43:00 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: litehaus
"Rainbow as usual,, and says FU ! Fudgepackers Unite !"

Rump Rangers Forever? Lickity Split Them? Just don't ask and never tell. What difference does over one hundred thousand years of human history mean anyway?

38 posted on 06/27/2015 1:50:25 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

What difference does over one hundred thousand years of human history mean anyway?

Shows us that (For non-religious) Mother Nature makes mistakes too...For instance, how long does an Albino Gator last?
G ay
A ids
Y et
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39 posted on 06/27/2015 2:01:30 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: A Navy Vet

Biblical marriage.

A special marriage that the
destroyers will never have.


40 posted on 06/27/2015 2:43:54 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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