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Ben Carson wins conservative straw poll, Fiorina and Walker close behind
Washington Examiner ^ | June 28, 2015 | Philip Klein and Ariel Cohen

Posted on 06/28/2015 1:31:02 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

DENVER -- Ben Carson, the famed surgeon turned presidential candidate, rode his outsider message to victory on Sunday at the Western Conservative Summit straw poll sponsored by the Washington Examiner, edging out former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Taken together, the results point to the resonance of the anti-Washington message among conservative audiences, as all three candidates argued in different ways that they would shake up the DC status quo.

Carson garnered 26 percent of the 871 votes cast; Fiorina got 23 percent; Walker was at 22 percent; and Ted Cruz, at 11 percent, was the only other candidate to make it into double-digits (he didn't speak at the conference, though his father gave a rousing talk on his behalf).

The results were especially disappointing for Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee, who both spoke at the conference. The attendees were heavily socially conservative, generally Huckabee and Santorum's core supporters. But Santorum was only at two percent of the vote and Huckabee got just one percent -- and actually earned fewer raw votes than Donald Trump, who was also at 2 percent.

Rick Perry, who also addressed the crowd on Saturday, also attained just 2 percent.

Though Jeb Bush didn't speak at the conference, it was noteworthy that the man who is considered a frontrunner received just four votes (as in, four people, not four percent).

"I think its too early to get behind any one candidate but its not too early to rule out candidates who represent the same old same old in politics," said one attendee named Karen, who declined to provide her last name. "People who are big money who will impose their will on people. Jeb Bush needs to be rejected by the Republican party. Fool me once shame on you, fool me thrice, it's all done. Each time Bush has been elected it's thwarted everything we stand for as Republicans."

Carson has consistently done well in front of conservative audiences and boasts an impressive grassroots network on social media. Saturday night, he roamed around the stage, speaking softly and conversationally about a variety of topics that all reinforced that he was coming from outside the typical political system.

"The professional politicians say you can't do it because you're not a politician," he said. "I say I can do it because I'm not a politician."

The crowd ate it up.

Those who remembered Fiorina's failed 2010 U.S. Senate campaign were skeptical when she announced she was running for president. But she's continually impressed conservative audiences with her aggressive attacks on Hillary Clinton, polished delivery, and argument that her experience in private business would bring much needed change to the political system.

Walker has also done consistently well before conservative audiences when discussing his experience beating unions and other special interest groups to implement conservative reforms in Wisconsin.

"From what I've seen so far, Scott Walker is the only candidate with the skills to lead," said Ladonna Lee, one attendee from Colorado. "In Wisconsin he helped the economy a lot, he helped workers. He's the only one who really understands the Constitution."

The poll also asked about Democratic candidates, and former Virginia Senator Jim Webb was the top choice of the crowd.

Here are the full raw vote totals.

For Republicans:

Carson 224

Florina 201

Walker 192

Cruz 100

Rand Paul 34

Marco Rubio 24

Rick Perry 20

Rick Santorum 16

Donald Trump 15

Mike Huckabee 13

Bobby Jindal 9

Bill Armstrong 6 (President of Colorado Christian University)

Bush 4

Kasich 4

Christie 3

Graham 3

Romney 3

Pataki 0

For Democrats:

Webb 83

Clinton 48

Sanders 42

Biden 39

Warren 21

Omalley 17

Chafee 16

Obama 15

Reid 8

Pelosi 5


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 06/28/2015 1:31:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No, no and no.

Add Bush and Rubio. Five are totally out.


2 posted on 06/28/2015 1:32:27 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only 18 candidates...

I thought it was more.

What a mess.


3 posted on 06/28/2015 1:35:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess the Orkin man and the Maytag repairman had prior commitments.


4 posted on 06/28/2015 1:36:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

871 votes? Geez, that’s nothing. This poll means nothing in the scheme of things.


5 posted on 06/28/2015 1:37:26 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz/Walker. The only choice.


6 posted on 06/28/2015 1:37:34 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fiorina has had a lot of good things to say recently so she bares hearing out.

Going with the “most logical” and “experienced” candidates has gotten this country nowhere in the last 20 plus years.


7 posted on 06/28/2015 1:42:17 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: flaglady47
871 votes? Geez, that’s nothing. This poll means nothing in the scheme of things.

You have that right. Polls have no influence on me until we are about 1 month out from the general election. Forget all this crap. It is just filler for the networks and the papers.

8 posted on 06/28/2015 1:49:11 PM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: CCGuy

Everyone below Cruz, get out now.

Carson will drop out, broke. Which leaves Cruz, Walker and Fiorina. Firoina vs Hillary? Hillary gets slaughtered. Walker vs Hillary? Will be better than 2012, just cannot determine how much better.

Cruz vs Hillary? Every Conservative is voting. It’s a route.


9 posted on 06/28/2015 1:49:22 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Change the Defense of Marriage Act to the Defense of Holy Matrimony Act. Game, set match.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Notice who won on the RAT side? That is telling.


10 posted on 06/28/2015 2:01:12 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ben “The Court has spoken on gay marriage” Carson?


11 posted on 06/28/2015 2:05:45 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Fungi
Webb + Sanders = 125

Clinton = 48.

I'm wondering if Sanders + Webb might be the Democrat's best ticket, to give them the potential of 16 years in office.

Both political parties, forcing hillary and Jeb on the voters, demonstrates just how disgusting and in cahoots the political class is. It's them vs us, across the political spectrum.

12 posted on 06/28/2015 2:11:54 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

A couple guys around 70 years old are not going to be the Dems candidates for president.


13 posted on 06/28/2015 2:14:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: grania

16 Years? God forbid. We can barely make it through the present eight. And Webb was is a former republican.


14 posted on 06/28/2015 2:16:12 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: jjotto

Uhhh...hillsty will be around 70 years old. Under Obama, the dems have fostered no young talent. both Webb and Sanders are pretty youthful and in good shape for their ages; hillary is not.


15 posted on 06/28/2015 2:17:38 PM PDT by grania
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Scott Walker is the only candidate with the skills to lead...He's the only one who really understands the Constitution."

I'm not so sure about that, but he certainly kicked @$$ on the government unions, and that's all I need to know.

16 posted on 06/28/2015 2:17:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
That's some great coverage.
  1. Carson 224
  2. Florina 201
  3. Walker 192
  4. Cruz 100
No one else cracked 50. Cruz? Barely mentioned. Dr. Ben Carson is, at best, a VP running mate. Thanks to his inability to maintain his conservative mask on some basic issues, he's clearly picking up info-challenged voters who like his speech.
17 posted on 06/28/2015 2:18:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Karl is krapping profusely.


18 posted on 06/28/2015 2:19:20 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Malcom X is Obama's baby daddy.)
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To: grania

No, that would be Andrew Cuomo/Elizabeth Warren

That’s the back-up plan if for some reason Hillary gets forced out of the race, though i can see nothing where she voluntarily drops out so it would have to be something dramatic.


19 posted on 06/28/2015 2:20:13 PM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: mc5cents

I have used Straw polls to cite the success of Cruz. Here are my observations...

Carson remains too strong, but he wont’ be around long. Fiorina beating Walker is a big deal...especially if Walker showed up at the Conference.

Cruz was strong despite showing up...bodes well...

Huck and Santorum need to get out now.


20 posted on 06/28/2015 2:25:27 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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