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Ryan: Obamacare Will ‘Collapse Under Its Own Weight’
Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2015 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 06/28/2015 3:34:52 PM PDT by Kaslin

“Today, after more than 50 votes in Congress to repeal or weaken this law, after a presidential election based in part on preserving or repealing this law, after multiple challenges to this law before the Supreme Court, the Affordable Care Act is here to say,” President Obama said on Thursday after the Supreme Court upheld the state subsidies provision in the Affordable Care Act. In other words, time for Republicans to give up the fight against the health law.

But appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, Rep. Paul Ryan seemed unfazed.

Ryan said the current law is not fixable, and, citing the rationing of Medicare, denial of choice, double-digit annual increases in premiums, and the consolidation of insurance companies, he argued that the country won’t stand for it.

“This law’s going to collapse under its own weight,” he said. “I am as motivated as ever before to repeal and replace this law, and that’s what we’re working on.”

Ryan told host John Dickerson that, despite media reports to the contrary, the GOP has plenty of ideas for legitimate replacements to the law, something that he plans to move forward on in 2017 if a Republican is elected president.

“There are a number of alternative ObamaCare bills out there right now, in Congress. So I just disagree with that notion,” said Paul, who was the GOP vice presidential nominee in 2012.

“In 2016, we need to show the country what exactly we would replace this law with, so that when we win the election in 2016, we will have the ability to do it in 2017,” he continued, encouraging GOP presidential candidates to talk at length about what they want to do to replace ObamaCare with a system that works better.

As of early June, support for the law stood at a mere 39 percent, which ties an all-time low, last hit in April of 2012. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; obamacare; paulryan; repealobamacare
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To: PGR88

He is not giving up. He prefers to keep obamacare. He is surely making a lot of money from it. They all are. And it makes election campaigns easier. Elections will be fought out over which candidate can tweak the system the most profitably for this group of constituents or that one, or for all of them in incompatible ways.


61 posted on 06/28/2015 4:22:20 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Kaslin
I praised Ryan for about the first month of the campaign season. After that, I realized that the stuff he was saying was more about business and less about constitutional conservatives. Someone (wisely it turns out) pointed out that we should be very cautious about the intentions of someone who married for money. It turns out that was a sound observation.

FWIW, after Romney backed down about Benghazi and came out with that 47% stuff, I continued to support Romney, but only because I thought the Romneys would have more class about their cultural choices than the current residents have. And I thought the youth of the US would be better off with a positive culture being in the limelight.

My enthusiasm had wained by the time of the election, mostly because neither Romney or Ryan seemed to be into a passionate presentation of conservative issues.

62 posted on 06/28/2015 4:24:33 PM PDT by grania
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To: Georgia Girl 2

He’s not a RINO. He is a Republican. He well represents what Republicans are. The RINOs are the conservatives who stay in the party and vote for Republicans because they think there is no other choice. When both names on the ballot lead straight to the same place what is the point of calling it a choice? One is only voting for one’s favored representatives of the Administration and the C of C. What does it matter how well they perform the requirements of the Democrat leadership? or the Chammber of Commerce desires?


63 posted on 06/28/2015 4:26:32 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Christians should do the most repenting! Why?

Answer:

1) Abortion:
Millions can show up to support Chick-fil-A, but can't seem to figure out a way to put a peaceful and legal and **total** end to abortion? Really?

2) Godless and socialist-entitlement K-12 schooling:
Since my grandmother's day ( born in 1892) the schools have been godlessly secular with an occasional lukewarm nod toward God once in a while. Since the 60s they have been utterly godless. Children in these schools WILL learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

In many counties and even whole states, Christians could **immediately** shut these godless and socialist-entitlement K-12 indoctrination camps. Simply by removing their children the entire godless system would collapse. Yet...Year after year these godless pits of ignorance ( misnamed “schools”) remain filled to the brim with the children of **Christians***!

Abortion is a stinking stew. What are its ingredients?

Answer: A nation of voters whose parents sent them into the godless government indoctrination camps where they were taught to think and reason godlessly.

So?,.... Who will be held to a greater condemnation? Citizens who don't know any better or the Christian who should and does know better and could legally and peaceful put and end to evil ( abortion and the government K-12 indoctrination camps) ?

64 posted on 06/28/2015 4:27:56 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: arthurus

Yeh maybe we need to stop calling these guys RINO’s and just call them mainstream republicans.


65 posted on 06/28/2015 4:28:49 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh Cmon the guy is a worse RINO than Cantor. There is no betrayal too great for him. Give it up already.


66 posted on 06/28/2015 4:30:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Everything you said is absolutely correct. But Obamacare, while unpopular, hasn’t reached the tipping point yet where the public will, in the necessary numbers, demand that it be tossed out.

Paul Ryan is a huge disappointment, but I do see the game he and the Republicans are playing. It similar to the one that Roberts has been playing: they don’t want to be seen as actively delivering a fatal blow to Obamacare.

Now, fully funding the thing only helps prolong the inevitable. So Ryan has that right. Because even “fully funding” doesn’t provide the money nessary to pay for it. Otherwise the Health Co’s wouldn’t be massively jacking up rates every year.

The problem with Ryan and the rest is two fold. First, they aren’t shining nearly the spotlight necessary on the problems this law is creating. Which partly leads into the second part: we don’t trust Ryan and the rest. And with good reason. We know that they’re barely playing passive-aggressive with this, but are otherwise punting on it in the hopes that the tipping point I described above will happen before the GOP base takes a walk ...


67 posted on 06/28/2015 4:35:54 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Kaslin

Dateline: February 2017. President Hillary Clinton announced in her State of the Union address that ‘The Affordable Care Act is here to stay’.

But appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, Rep. Paul Ryan seemed unfazed.

Ryan said the current law is not fixable, and, citing the rationing of Medicare, denial of choice, double-digit annual increases in premiums, and the consolidation of insurance companies, he argued that the country won’t stand for it.

“This law’s going to collapse under its own weight,” he said. “I am as motivated as ever before to repeal and replace this law, and that’s what we’re working on.”

Host John Dickerson: “But, Congressman, Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced this morning that there will be absolutely no changes made to the ACA, and Senate Majority Leader Reid said he and Minority Leader McConnell are shoulder to shoulder in opposing any changes to it.”


68 posted on 06/28/2015 4:45:14 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Kaslin

Ryan

Military family ripper-offer

Belllechh!!! He makes my skin crawl


69 posted on 06/28/2015 4:47:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

Ryan

Military family ripper-offer

Belllechh!!! He makes my skin crawl


70 posted on 06/28/2015 4:47:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

“Just vote for us in 2016...it’s gonna happen!... *giggle*”


71 posted on 06/28/2015 4:48:05 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kaslin

Paul Ryan can go eff himself...


72 posted on 06/28/2015 4:48:46 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Kaslin

This from one of the guy’s who was ready to pass legislation to continue the subsidies had the SCOTUS decision gone the other way!


73 posted on 06/28/2015 4:51:23 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Kaslin

Shame on you


No shame on Paul Ryan for trying to cut vet benefits and pimping out Main Street to his K Street donors. Cromnibus, TPA, Obamacare funding, etc. The man is corportist beltway GOP piggery at its worst. Oink, oink.


74 posted on 06/28/2015 4:54:49 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: COBOL2Java
I am as motivated as ever before to repeal and replace this law, and that’s what we’re working on.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Motivated as ever? Well?....If never motivated that means he is still not motivated and will not work any harder than he has!

75 posted on 06/28/2015 4:54:51 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/01/21/levin-gop-wont-defund-obamacare-or-exec-amnesty/


76 posted on 06/28/2015 4:56:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not sure Rome is the best example to use linking spiritual and political decline. They did pretty well as a pagan society for about 700 years. It was after they became officially Christian and banned all other religions that things really came apart.


77 posted on 06/28/2015 4:57:15 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Kaslin
It's not going to collapse.
Various leftist groups will then be ordered by the DNC to demand single-payer, and the gutless Congress will cave in and give it to them.
78 posted on 06/28/2015 4:57:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Kaslin

Paul Ryan seemed unfazed.

Just look at that geek. I bet all of the real boys at high school gave him a nookie and wedgie all of the time.

I know that Obama is giving him a nookie and wedgie on a daily basis and he laughs because he thinks it’s because Obama is his playful buddy.


79 posted on 06/28/2015 4:58:24 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Kaslin

It already has collapsed. Insurance quotes prove that.


80 posted on 06/28/2015 4:59:43 PM PDT by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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