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Historic Gettysburg Lutheran Seminary Bans Confederate Flags
The Evening Sun ^ | 6/28/2015 | Chris Cappella

Posted on 06/30/2015 1:58:20 PM PDT by Ladysforest

The Hanover Evening Sun Local News

In the wake of several Gettysburg-area stores making announcements on if they'll continue to sell Confederate flag-related merchandise, the Lutheran Theological Seminary is making its stand.

Saturday, the day before a Living History event was slated to take place on the seminary's campus, the administration announced it would be banning symbols of hate speech and racism on seminary grounds, said the Rev. John Spangler, executive assistant to the president for communication and planning.

The ban prohibits the display of the flag or flags associated with the Confederate States of America, Spangler said.

"The subsequent use by other groups have made this impossible to maintain the symbol of what the flag stands for," he said.

The seminary still did host re-enactors from the American Living History Education Society Sunday, but without the Confederate flag, Spangler said. The re-enactment took place to depict scenes from the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg.

Many of the re-enactors did not know about the ban until getting there and most were not happy, Spangler said.

(Excerpt) Read more at eveningsun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; antihistory; elca; gettysberg; leftwingnuts; reenactors
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To: Ladysforest

The Seminary is bisected by a public road, Seminary Ridge Drive (used to be “Confederate Ave” until about 15 years ago) connecting US 30 and PA 116.

I encourage MD/PA freepers with loud dual exhaust pickup trucks to cruise that road while displaying an oversize stars & bars in the bed.


21 posted on 06/30/2015 2:30:56 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Ladysforest

It’s insane to think that Confederate reenactors can’t carry the battle flag!


22 posted on 06/30/2015 2:34:11 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: lightman

I used to think that aside from the lack of adequate hotel accommodations, Gettysburg would be a cool place to have a huge Tea Party reunion. *sigh*


23 posted on 06/30/2015 2:34:15 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: lightman; LucyT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3306238/posts?page=21#21

Great idea!

Any private property in the area with a big flag pole?

If so, put up the stars & bars there too.


24 posted on 06/30/2015 2:35:20 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Ladysforest

So what is the new way in which we are supposed to learn about the Civil War and Civil War battlefields and events? Can Gettysburg itself even be a historical site because, to talk about it is to necessarily talk about the South, its army and prominent Confederates? Can we talk about any part of our history prior to the Civil War? If we talk about the Southern campaigns of the Revolutionary War, we are talking about a rebel army in which some of the generals and other soldiers held slaves. We need to completely ban discussions of the Mexican-American War. That expanded slavery and was imperialist aggression against a non-white country. Can we talk about medieval history? If we do, we would be talking about a Christian Church that, at the time, thought non-Christians were heretics who should be converted, sometimes by force. It also was a society that oppressed women by modern standards. When does history start? Even post-Civil War American history is filled with oppression of blacks — Jim Crow, segregation, etcetera. Even once you get past the 1960s, Libs tell us that Ronald Reagan oppressed blacks so can we talk about the evil 1980s? George Bush also filled his cabinet with “confederates” according to black politicians so can we talk about the 2000s and the second Bush Administration? Its all so confusing.


25 posted on 06/30/2015 2:37:27 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Ladysforest
And you as the leader live very well while the peasants starve to death. I am sure that Marx wouldn't be happy. The promise of Communism was that the “peasants” or working class would live well after the revolt as their value as citizens increased.

Clearly Communism can never work and yet as Vendome mentioned, it is still loved by the Left.

26 posted on 06/30/2015 2:42:47 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Ladysforest
Cool is not the right word. Lol. Visited a few years back and thought that I was going to die from the heat and humidity. I am from dry Colorado.

Gave me a lot of respect for the men who fought there — marching around in wool uniforms at 90% humidity and 90degF lugging 40 pound packs, some without shoes!

27 posted on 06/30/2015 2:51:09 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Ladysforest

How bigoted of the Lutheran Seminary. Reenactments might be next.


28 posted on 06/30/2015 2:57:49 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott Mexico)
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To: Ladysforest

we do not live in a free country away from Govt anymore.

The masses of the ignorant voted this idiot in , even when they knew not much about his background. The ignorant turned even more dumber voting him in again and now they will see what we will see in the years to come when their rights are striped away, or they are mocked and pressured to do what the Govt what’s them too.


29 posted on 06/30/2015 2:58:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I think you may see that the way we learn about the Civil War will change, er, evolve.

Our history is under attack in many ways and on many levels. For example, at Mount Vernon, the home of George Washington, the tone is being shifted to one of “here lived a SLAVE OWNER”, instead of, “here lived George Washington, founder of our great country, who like many prominent men of the period, owned slaves.” The difference between two years ago and a few months ago when I last visited, is considerable. Far worse at Jefferson’s Monticello. It just makes you wince.


30 posted on 06/30/2015 3:23:05 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

If the re-enacters want to do the right thing, they will not show. That will bring financial and probably social pressure on the NPS and all the venues who want to deny history at the altar of political correctness.


31 posted on 06/30/2015 3:32:14 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Jane Austen

As an ex-ELCA lute, I expect that sometime soon, the word “Lutheran” in the ELCA will be determined to be bigoted, and removed, since Luther would have abhorred homosexuality.


32 posted on 06/30/2015 3:40:07 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: realcleanguy

You can’t be speaking of the AUTHENTIC Lutheran Church —Missouri Synod. The LCA and ELCA are even in debate as to whether or not they should remove the name Lutheran from their name. No way would Mo. synod ever approve of gay marriage.


33 posted on 06/30/2015 3:41:12 PM PDT by RightLady
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To: pfflier

I HOPE that amongst their organizations such a conversation is taking place.


34 posted on 06/30/2015 3:42:48 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

Next year the southern forces will be fighting under the RAINBOW FLAG but they will not be called Confederates. They will be called “dissatisfied white trash”.

There I PCed it.


35 posted on 06/30/2015 3:43:11 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: BenLurkin

Yep. Every one of these *historic* sites, that are removing/erasing history, should be called just that....anti-historic.


36 posted on 06/30/2015 3:44:56 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

BWAHAHAHa. But you may have something there.

I do have to wonder, if re-enactors carry the Confederate flag at other places in Gettysburg, will they have to turn them in to a mod at the end of the day, so the flags can be locked up? Only allowed to be flown and shown with prior written approval from a mod, otherwise a re-enactor will face fines and expulsion. Hummmmm.


37 posted on 06/30/2015 3:50:47 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

After 150 years, the Lutherans suddenly get religion, of the revisionist kind. It kind of makes me doubt their sincerity.


38 posted on 06/30/2015 4:25:39 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Ladysforest
I used to think that aside from the lack of adequate hotel accommodations, Gettysburg would be a cool place to have a huge Tea Party reunion. *sigh*

There was a flurry of new hotel construction both in Gettysburg and nearby Hanover prior the sesquicentennial of the battle.

39 posted on 06/30/2015 5:05:37 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Ladysforest

“Most (of the reenactors) were not happy.”

Yet they also weren’t offended enough to pack up and leave.

No one should support the display of the ANoVA flag in a hateful and racist manner. Doing so desecrates a symbol to many of their heritage, the honorable service and conduct of their ancestors, etc.

But demanding removal of it from display in a historically appropritate and relevant context, such as a living history event or reenactment, is as about as close to Maoism as I’ve seen in this country.


40 posted on 06/30/2015 5:14:27 PM PDT by tanknetter
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