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Trump and the Myth of Immigrant Crime (Humongous Barf Alert!!!)
Townhall.com ^ | July 5, 2015 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 07/05/2015 11:41:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/05/2015 11:41:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
As the Daniel Tosh said, "We should force illegal immigrants to serve on jury duty. Then, it would most certainly be a jury of one's peers."
2 posted on 07/05/2015 11:43:55 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin

I think he needs a session with Ann Coulter, or take a walk in San Franciso, or camp out on the Arizona Mexican border, etc.


3 posted on 07/05/2015 11:46:50 AM PDT by odawg
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The incarceration rate of illegal aliens is at least three times that of Americans in general. There are, at the outside, about 2.2M Americans in state, federal and local prisons and jails. If you assume a population of 300M (which is low), you get an incarceration rate of 733 prisoners per 100k.

The GAO estimated that in 2009 there were 296k illegal aliens in state prisons and local jails. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11187.pdf Note that since states and localities cannot enforce immigration law, those people are incarcerated for committing non-immigration related offenses. That number also doesn’t include the number of illegals in federal prison, but let’s ignore those people since at least some of them are there for federal immigration violations, which our friends on the Left don’t actually consider crimes. So if we assume there are 12M illegals in the U.S., that’s an illegal alien incarceration rate of 2467 prisoners per 100k, which is more than three times the general American incarceration rate.

Another data point consistent with the trend. In 2009, the Arizona Department of Corrections reported that illegal aliens made up 15% of its prison population, but illegals made up only 7% of its population, indicating that illegals were overrepresented in the prison population by a factor of 2.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/undocumented-immigrant...


4 posted on 07/05/2015 11:48:39 AM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: Kaslin; stephenjohnbanker; TADSLOS; KC_Lion; Lazamataz

I figure any day now the GOP will stand up and admit the truth and begin fighting back the tide of liberal propaganda because I and everyone here were ASSURED that GOP feet would be held to the fire if only we would give them a chance and send them back to DC/into power.

I figure that enough time has elapsed for all the staunch conservatives that said that to have arrived in DC with kindling wood, matches and electric socks. So...

Any day now.


5 posted on 07/05/2015 11:49:18 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kaslin

Paid shill from the Bush family?

Or just ordinary American hater?

He’s seriously arguing that illegal aliens are better then Americans?

How does he explain the El Paso-Juarez crime dichotomy? He doesnt. He merely quotes it.

But it’s been well explained. El Paso has a heavy federal and state police presence, including military. Much of the population is connected to border law enforcement, and enormous resources are expended there. It also has a functioning fence and the Rio Grande is now a concrete lined moat, floodlighted at night. You can see it for miles from the air.

This is all racist BS. it’s the Open Borders crowd version of Hatin’ Whitey, their attempt at portraying themselves as tolerant multiculturalists.

All they really want is desperate slaves.


6 posted on 07/05/2015 11:54:59 AM PDT by Regulator
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This writer should be sentenced to have to ride around with police officers and emergency responders who are responding to crime scenes left in the wake of illegal immigrant’s path.


7 posted on 07/05/2015 11:56:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No they won’t. Only candidates throwing Hail Marys like Cruz are going to do that. The Demographics in this country have changed so fundamentally that no one dares offend la raza, even with the truth.

We lost this issue, when we lost country, with Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration bill.

It is time to stop investing effort in the republican party, and start planning for what comes next, hopefully secession, collapse, something of that nature.


8 posted on 07/05/2015 11:56:20 AM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: Kaslin
Successful businessmen usually get the facts before speaking.And I would say Trump is successful.
9 posted on 07/05/2015 12:00:44 PM PDT by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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To: altsehastiin

I agree completely. It’s just a matter of time. History always repeats. And it does it exactly. They wanted lesser evil and created greater evil.

And none of them will tale responsibility for their actions.


10 posted on 07/05/2015 12:00:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: odawg

Don’t forget the rape trees.


11 posted on 07/05/2015 12:01:00 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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“Univision also updated potential investors on the outlook for its legal battle with Donald Trump. He is suing the company for $500 million for breach of contract after it abruptly ended its association with the real-estate mogul, citing his recent controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. Univision expressed confidence it will prevail in court, dismissing the lawsuit as “legally ridiculous.”
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/253258/univision-to-offer-ipo-cites-increased-revs.html

Complaint by Donald Trump

www.scribd.com/doc/270124367/Donald-Trump-complain...


12 posted on 07/05/2015 12:01:00 PM PDT by Corazon
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To: DoughtyOne

Just bring him to AZ and tie him to a rape tree. Nothing will happen I’m sure.


13 posted on 07/05/2015 12:02:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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“Univision also updated potential investors on the outlook for its legal battle with Donald Trump. He is suing the company for $500 million for breach of contract after it abruptly ended its association with the real-estate mogul, citing his recent controversial comments about Mexican immigrants. Univision expressed confidence it will prevail in court, dismissing the lawsuit as “legally ridiculous.”
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/253258/univision-to-offer-ipo-cites-increased-revs.html

Complaint by Donald Trump

http://www.scribd.com/doc/270124367/Donald-Trump-complain...


14 posted on 07/05/2015 12:03:19 PM PDT by Corazon
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To: odawg

He needs to stop doubling down on rape and focus on the drugs that illegals bring in, forcibly or voluntarily, combined with their pernicious economic impact.


15 posted on 07/05/2015 12:04:51 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, you know Steve Chapman seems to have a few screws loose


16 posted on 07/05/2015 12:05:56 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Your suggestion brings up a point these idiots don’t consider, ever!

Who is the biggest victim of illegal immigrants?

It’s other immigrants who have come here to be a part of our society. They take the brunt of the crime. Where does the crime activity take place? Gangs?

Yes, this guy should have to witness the harm done to the very people he thinks Trump was insulting.

He should be forced to look in their faces and realize they agree with Trump.


17 posted on 07/05/2015 12:06:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Regulator
Paid shill from the Bush family?

What the eff are you talking about?

18 posted on 07/05/2015 12:07:50 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t read like a screed from some one who has taken a cheery stroll through East Los Angeles...

AND LIVED................


19 posted on 07/05/2015 12:10:47 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

He seeks to game us, and fails to realize he’s only gaming the very people hurt most by this elevated crime. It’s usually the very immigrants he thinks he’s defending valiantly.

No, he’s betraying them.

I’ve been saying for decades that the crime perpetrated by illegal immigrants and on illegal immigrants was one of the most powerful arguments against what was being allowed to take place.


20 posted on 07/05/2015 12:11:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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