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HOW DOES GOD VIEW THE DAUGHTER OF BABYLON?
The End of America ^ | Sept. 2013 | John Price

Posted on 07/07/2015 10:45:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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This is an excerpt from Chapter Seven of The End of America by John Price.

It's only 99 cents at Amazon, and I highly recommend it.

DISCLAIMER: I am not the author, have never met the author, and have no connection whatsoever to the author.

1 posted on 07/07/2015 10:45:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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Shinar and Babylon are in Iraq. The Euphrates and Tigris are in Iraq. When the Bible refers to Babylon, it means Babylon! With the exception of Joel 3, Zechariah 14, and Revelation 19 (all nations of the world gathered for Armageddon), America is not in the Bible. Which more than likely means that we have either been destroyed, or become irrelevant to world events...


2 posted on 07/07/2015 10:51:23 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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We are not Babylon.

We are the Daughter of Babylon.

3 posted on 07/07/2015 10:53:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

The harlot of Revelation isn’t America. That’s not even a remote possibility, if you consider all the scriptural evidence.


4 posted on 07/07/2015 10:56:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Since America was not part of the known world when Revelations was written, it would be even more notable had it been mentioned.


5 posted on 07/07/2015 10:57:18 AM PDT by sparklite2
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There is Babylon and there is Mystery Babylon.

Not that you are saying this, but America is not Mystery Babylon.

Our nation does share many of the same traits, though.


6 posted on 07/07/2015 10:58:30 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Boogieman

Correct.


7 posted on 07/07/2015 10:58:49 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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“When the Bible refers to Babylon, it means Babylon!”

The city of Babylon does not exist today. It did not exist at the time the prophecy was written, or at any time in between.

Unless Babylon suddenly becomes inhabited again and rises to world prominence (seems unlikely, but nothing is impossible), then we have no choice but to surmise that Babylon is a spiritual name, just like another city is named spiritually Sodom and Egypt in Revelation.


8 posted on 07/07/2015 10:59:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ShadowAce

ping


9 posted on 07/07/2015 11:00:25 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: sparklite2

There was a city that ruled over the kings of the Earth when Revelation was written. All of these authors ignore that to a fault.

Revelation 17:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


10 posted on 07/07/2015 11:00:40 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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We are in the Bible. We are the Eagle’s Wings in the Book of Revelation, the Lion with “Eagle’s Wings” that are plucked off. (England’s symbol is the Lion, America’s symbol is the Eagle.) America, as you know, came out of England. - Another possibility, besides irrelevancy, is that America will sit out any more war at that time.


11 posted on 07/07/2015 11:02:38 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: SaveFerris

John is seeing a vision of the future during that verse. So that language doesn’t identify the city as one reigning over the kings of the earth during John’s day, but one that would do so in the future.


12 posted on 07/07/2015 11:06:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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The city of Babylon does not exist today. It did not exist at the time the prophecy was written, or at any time in between.

Babylon was still flourishing under the Parthian empire when Revelations was written.

13 posted on 07/07/2015 11:07:20 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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No, it’s present tense. There was a city when that book was written, and the intent of the book was to hide its meaning from the soldiers and rulers of that city.


14 posted on 07/07/2015 11:10:27 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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Sure seems plausible to me. A rich, prosperous, depraved nation? That’s the USA in a nutshell. Much of Revelation is written in visionary prophetic language.

It’s also very likely that, because of our great depravity, God will pour out His wrath on us and destroy us, as the Babylon of Revelation is destroyed. God is not mocked, and we’re the worst mockers on earth. We deserve whatever He dishes out to us.


15 posted on 07/07/2015 11:12:37 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: ShadowAce
We are not Babylon. We are the Daughter of Babylon.

Who is Babylon?

16 posted on 07/07/2015 11:13:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Twinkie
The lion with eagle's wings is not from Revelation, but from the book of Daniel, chapter 7. This symbolized the Babylonian/Assyrian empire, as the lion with eagle's wings was a common symbol of that empire:

The vision of the four beasts is actually interpreted by an angel within that chapter itself, starting in verse 15, however Daniel is concerned with the fourth beast and does not specifically ask for the identity of the lion. However, we are given enough information to determine the nature of the beasts, and that they must be in sequence chronologically, so the Babylonian/Assyrian empire is the only identification that fits.

17 posted on 07/07/2015 11:15:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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I was always taught that the Daughter of Babylon was the Catholic church, but that never made sense to me. When I read Revelation 18, for myself a few months ago, followed by reading John Price’s book, the U.S. seems to be a MUCH better fit, line by line. Our sin has overwhelmed the entire world.
When Price points out that, in the Old Testament there was always an accounting for the shedding of innocent blood, my heart dropped. Not only is our nation responsible for 55 million abortions, but we’ve perfected it, exported it, and have even put pressure on other countries around the world to offer free abortions on demand. Heck, we’ve even paid for the murder of their innocent babies with American tax dollars.

Price presents a good case for a likely nuclear attack on America as part of God’s judgment.

You also need to listen to John MacArthur’s sermon, A Nation Abandoned by God. He preached that in 2007, which was when life was great here in the U.S. Home prices were rising, we all felt that our future was secure — and then came the crash of 2009. America has never recovered, nor will we.


18 posted on 07/07/2015 11:18:18 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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“No, it’s present tense.”

Yes, within the context of a vision of the future.

For example, in chapter 19, John says this:

“11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.”

Now, do you think that means, because he didn’t use future tense, that Jesus has already descended from heaven in his glory and gone off to war?

Or is it more reasonable to read it as a future event, only described in the present tense because John witnessed it as it unfolded, through a prophetic vision?


19 posted on 07/07/2015 11:20:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

No, it’s present tense.

Just like 1 Peter 5:13.


20 posted on 07/07/2015 11:21:49 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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