Posted on 07/11/2015 1:22:02 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
You know absolutely nothing about me if you think I will vote for Jeb ‘Pontius Pilate’ Bush.
As I believe I have intimated before, please show me the perfect candidate and I’ll support them.
Not finding that person, I have to work with what we have at hand.
Ideally, I’m not a Trump supporter. This isn’t something I relish. What choice do we have?
We can’t sit by and watch our nation go another five trillion in debt.
“The perfect candidate” is a straw man. No one is looking for such a non-existent creature.
All some of us are looking for are candidates who understand the most important and basic obligations of their oath, and who have a demonstrated commitment to fulfilling those obligations.
We can debate over the debatable stuff until the cows come home. But those six simply things I posted earlier should be beyond debate for anyone who calls themselves “conservative.”
“Simple” not “simply.”
So instead of supporting another from the Bush dynasty, you’ll be supporting Trump. Very encouraging. That’s a good start.
No. I won’t be supporting Trump either.
Well good luck with that strategery.
My “strategy” is the George Washington strategy.
“If, to please the people, we offer what we ourselves disprove, how can we afterwards defend our work? Let us raise a standard to which the wise and the honest can repair. The event is in the hand of God.”
- George Washington
While you and I both would like those six things to be at the core of a candidate we desire, I have come to the place where I understand we’re not going to get that core.
So the claim that “the Perfect Candidate” is a straw-man argument, is not actually factual. By you’re own admission, you’re still holding out for this imaginary guy. And hey, I can respect that. I understand the wish myself. Just be honest about it, at least to yourself.
So you don’t vote next year. Okay. That’s up to you. Nobody is going to have that core, so you have no other option.
I am going to vote for the person who can actually see the most important issues facing our nation, and is willing to tackle them. If that winds up being Trump and nobody else, that’s how the cards fall.
I’m not going to let Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders become president by sitting on the sidelines.
I’m not going to vote for some double-talking (out of both sides of their mouths) guy that pushes beyond the truth to win me over.
Give me the warts version. I’ll deal with it.
Better than being lied to about things for another eight years. At least when I vote for Trump, I can own up to what I did and blame myself. Who do I blame by suckering for another liar? Blame them? Hah.
Who do you see blaming themselves around here for voting for Bush the second time around besides me?
No problem, I make all sorts of errors and then don’t proof read until I’ve hit the post button.
I pretty much always vote. So that’s another straw man.
And if the Republicans won’t put up somebody who will keep the oath, whenever possible, I will make sure there is someone to vote for who will.
I have, many times.
But I learned my lesson.
I laugh at folks who always dump the “straw man” card on the table when they can’t come up with a reasoned response to the truth.
You always vote. What has that to do with the top ticket?
Did I say you wouldn’t vote for anything else. Please link me to where I said you wouldn’t vote for anything else.
The topic was the presidential race. Your mention of voting for other things wasn’t the topic, and your changing the parameters doesn’t serve you well. It just looks desparate.
And I think it is a lesson worth learning.
Tell you what, without Trump I had considered not voting for the top ticket again this year. I’m sick of liars and those who try to hoodwink us.
If they’re all warmed over guys who only pretend to hear us because they want votes, what makes them any better than Hillary? If I wanted liar, I’d just vote for her.
Trumps is either far more Conservative than anyone thought, or he has at the very least called in a Conservative and truly listened to them.
Either way, it’s more than I can say for most of the others.
I didn’t change anything. You made out like I wouldn’t vote.
Give me a John Judas McCain as the Republican nominee, I’ll get an Alan Keyes on the ballot.
Give me someone like the most liberal governor in the history of the republic, Mitt Romney, I’ll run myself.
Just like the last two presidential elections.
Actually, I didn’t make out you wouldn’t vote and you know it.
We had never discussed anything other than the presidential ticket.
Please link me to where I addressed anything other than the presidential ticket.
I thinks folks have to have a screw loose to vote for another Bush.
If you look at what the last one handed off, it’s almost tantamount to a death with to vote for one.
They are simply incompetent as Presidents.
So you don’t vote next year. Okay. That’s up to you.
Not that it matters. I never said one way or other anyhow, as you claim. I just said that I vote. Big deal. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
When I object to your mischaracterizion, I’m the one who is making a mountain out of a molehill according to you.
When you made the mischaracterization, it was totally reasoned to you.
LOL
You knew what I meant. So did everyone else.
Well said!
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