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Scott Walker erodes Wisconsin college professor tenure
Politico ^ | 07/13/2015 | By KIMBERLY HEFLING

Posted on 07/13/2015 11:34:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s trailblazing effort to weaken tenure protections at public colleges and universities is now a reality with his signing of a $73 billion budget on Sunday.

The effort has outraged unions and higher education groups, leaving them fearful that other lawmakers will follow suit to unravel labor protections in higher education that have long been considered sacred ground.

Walker downplayed the changes at Sunday’s signing at a valve manufacturing facility in Waukesha, Wisconsin, emphasizing instead that tuition was being frozen in the University of Wisconsin system for two more years at the rate it was two years ago.

“We made college more affordable for college students and working families all across the state,” Walker said.

Walker signed the budget as he prepared to announce his run for the Republican presidential nomination Monday. The tenure fight could further endear him to conservatives skeptical of what some perceive as the ivory tower of higher education, and it serves to remind voters of his earlier effort to scale back collective-bargaining rights of public employee unions — including K-12 teachers — when he was first building a national profile.

The budget sent to Walker also includes other labor-related issues that frustrated unions, including a provision that rolls back a minimum pay protection for laborers working on local public construction projects like schools.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; college; education; election2016; scottwalker; tenure; wisconsin
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1 posted on 07/13/2015 11:34:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

GOOD!!!!

The tenure system is a big part of the huge corrupt scam that IS Big Education.


2 posted on 07/13/2015 11:36:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SeekAndFind

Who do they think they are??? Judges???


3 posted on 07/13/2015 11:36:27 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: SeekAndFind

Get rid of all “_______ Studies” departments.


4 posted on 07/13/2015 11:37:27 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: SeekAndFind
It's an ominous sounding headline, but the truth be known ..... if American universities .... hell ... even American elementary and high schools .... were of ANY value .... we'd have brilliant children graduating with the tools to clean up politics, discover cures, build factories and take (back) over the planet

Instead, we have kids that by and large know how to twerk REAL GOOD, fight and demand for gay rights, shit on police cars, speak very bad English and just don't give a shit about America because they don't vote, don't want to vote and criticize anyone that does

All before the age of 18

If I was The Donald, I'd write an EO shutting down any institution that even smells like liberal arts.

Become a doctor, or skilled mechanic, or hair dresser or phlebotomist .... become SOMEthing besides a kid with a piece of paper showing perfect attendence for 12 years (16 if you go to "college")

5 posted on 07/13/2015 11:43:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Colleges are the breeding ground for LIBERALISM, rioting, moral decay and a bag full of all other bad teachings.
Great job Walker.


6 posted on 07/13/2015 11:52:09 AM PDT by Tac Double Tap (I'd rather die standing than on my knees begging.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Excelent.


7 posted on 07/13/2015 11:58:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: SeekAndFind
Walker has said while discussing his proposal that “maybe it’s time for faculty and staff to start thinking about teaching more classes and doing more work.” And Walker has defended his plan by noting he has a child enrolled in the University of Wisconsin, so he has a vested interest in ensuring his plan works well.

And colleges and universities all over the country are rooting for Walker to carry this out. Because if he does then the really good professors, the ones who attract tens of millions of dollars each year in research grants from governments and private companies, are going to get snapped up by other state and private universities and the ones that Wisconsin will be left with are the substandard instructors. Pretty soon UWM will be known for it's Woman's Studies and Ethnic Studies programs and that's about it.

8 posted on 07/13/2015 12:09:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Well Walker himself never enrolled at the University of Wisconsin system.

He enrolled at Marquette but did not graduate.


9 posted on 07/13/2015 12:11:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I say let PRIVATE universities grant as much tenure as they want, but PUBLIC universities should always remain beholden to the public legislature.


10 posted on 07/13/2015 12:12:06 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Almost all of my worst professors in college were tenured professors. The last thing they cared about was teaching. They were above it all. They were much more motivated about how to receive their next grant.


11 posted on 07/13/2015 12:17:46 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: skinndogNN
“Almost all of my worst professors in college were tenured professors”

I had the exact opposite experience. Among the non-tenured faculty I took courses from, the grad students and lecturers were inexperienced and didn't know much more about the subject they were teaching that my classmates and I did. All the assistant professors cared about was their research since that was what their looming tenure evaluation depended upon. It was the older, tenured professors who had the wisdom and perspective to convey properly the material they taught, and the luxury tenure bestowed to devote time to students outside the classroom.

12 posted on 07/13/2015 12:33:08 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: SeekAndFind; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

And for that we call him Saint! The greedy and lazy professors needed their sails trimmed. They don’t want to conntribute toward their benefits — even a pttance — and they don’t want to teach more than one class a week and they want to retire at 50. Cushy, cushy.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


13 posted on 07/13/2015 1:19:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: riverdawg

Were you in a class of 300 in a stadium seating arena as I have seen photos of?

How do you learn anything?


14 posted on 07/13/2015 1:30:07 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: SeekAndFind

“Scott Walker erodes Wisconsin college professor tenure”.

The big lie continues. What Wisconsin did was to take tenure out of the state statutes (the only state that had tenure protected by statute). Tenure is now in the hands of the regents. Profs can scream and yell all they want, the fact is they might have to show up in a classroom once in a while to earn their keep. Those that want to jump ship are welcomed to see what it’s like out there.


15 posted on 07/13/2015 1:32:43 PM PDT by joemsewi
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To: minnesota_bound
“Were you in a class of 300 in a stadium seating arena as I have seen photos of?

How do you learn anything?”

I was in classes of varying size, from 15 to 500. One of the most memorable classes was one with about 250 students in diplomatic history (although I was not a history major). The professor was a distinguished scholar in this subject, and taught the entire course in stand-up lecture style without any notes at all. Another course I remember fondly was symbolic logic, which was really a math class. The class had about 75 students, and was taught by a visiting professor of philosophy. He started on day 1 by writing the basic axioms on the blackboard (yes, I am that old), and then he proceeded in each successive class to derive the entire structure of logical analysis, complete with interesting examples, and again with absolutely no notes. I found out later that he was well-known for a book that analyzed Alice in Wonderland from the perspectives of logic and ethical theory.

16 posted on 07/13/2015 1:47:43 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

So much for the 30 class limit that politicians campaign on (to hire more teachers).

Analyzed Alice in Wonderland? He must have ended up crazy and disappeared down the rabbit hole.


17 posted on 07/13/2015 2:07:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: DoodleDawg
That's only ONE way of looking at this

The other is;
Good teachers will be attracted to a place they can actually teach without all the PC BS

My local HS has 'retired' about 20 teachers in the last two years and before I found out what was going on ...v i wondered why

NOW I understand they left under the guise of retirement because they couldn't stand the lezzie superintendent (with lezzie partner asst super) and their agenda of forced communist core .... brought in before I was a school board directer and njow I defund (vote no) on anything that has to do with commie core

Good teachers are leaving a plum of a SD (white, rural, no trouble, police, major drugs, etc.) that ANY teacher would LOVE to work at

I'm in the midst of a battle.

18 posted on 07/13/2015 2:08:34 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: minnesota_bound
So much for the 30 class limit that politicians campaign on (to hire more teachers).”

That type of limit is for K-12 schools. I've never heard a politician campaign for class-size limits for state-supported colleges.

19 posted on 07/13/2015 2:16:56 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: knarf
Good teachers will be attracted to a place they can actually teach without all the PC BS

Many, probably most professors in areas like science or technology or engineering or medicine or business spend as much time doing research as they do in the classroom. Tell them that they're required to spend 75% of their time in the classroom and far less time on research, research that is funded by tens of millions of dollars in funding from government and private sources, and what do you think those professors are going to do? Spend their time teaching freshmen the basics? Or take their national and international reputation, as well as all that research funding, across the border to another university that will give them the time they need to devote to their research?

20 posted on 07/13/2015 3:42:48 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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