Posted on 07/20/2015 10:25:00 AM PDT by SJackson
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"My muslim faith" - BHO
Oren is a diplomat and he speaks mostly very tactfully. It is also fine and dandy Israel tries to maintain the best possible relations with USA, Jerusalem realizes Obama’s anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-American attitudes do not speak for many American citizens. Nevertheless, Obama has caused tremendous harm to both America and Israel, facts that Israel has to deal with as best she can. One thing she’s learned is that she cannot rely even on her most natural and best ally, it being so susceptible to the Enemy taking it over (through its own political process, plus the mass media propaganda, and brainwashing we’ve seen these last few years). The sheeple, or rather enough of them, are only too happy to have their Land of Liberty “transformed” into a dictatorship.
With the Saudis and Egyptians purchasing nukes now, expect an expansion of warfare as they try to defend themselves against Obama’s comrades in Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbellah, Hamas, ISIS, AlQuaida, and all the rest.
Boom Boom Boom.
Boom Boom Boom.
Boom Boom Boom.
Pray for the IslamoNazis’ “Great Satan,” her sheeple are being mis-led down a path straight to Hell.
Pray for America.
“When the tide turns I will stand with the muslims”. paraphrase. He’s the only elected politician whose kept his promise during his campaign. He promised, though this was the greatest country in the world, he was going to change it. AND change it he has. I haven’t seen any Republican stand up to him. They come home and blab about what they are going to do to stop him. When they return to dc, they whimp up to the whitehut dweller and knuckle under to his wishes.
Look at the Iranians, they have their nuclear scientist back in the fold. America has 4 Americans being held in Iranian prisons. The first thing the Iranians demanded was their nuclear scientist be released back to Iran. What was the first thing the whitehut dweller demand before the negotiations began?? Now our overpaid elected are biting their knuckles because our American citizens were never mentioned and NOT part of the negotiations. They can eat our grits, for all I’m concerned.
srbfl
Moreover, it provides an historical account of America's relations with the Muslim world going back as far as the Barbary pirates — that Jefferson had to deal with, in 1804. (N.B.: this original encounter with Islam may have been formative in developing the notion of America needing to be a sea power.)
But most especially, it is an incisive account of developments in the Muslim world in more recent times, especially since the Obama ascendancy. It is deeply disturbing to me that the MSM has been so derelict in reporting these developments; or, if reported, "spun" into grossly ideological form.
Highly recommended reading!
Israel needs to act as if the US and Europe have no future. Europe has a civil war with Islam and major debt crisis to deal with. The US has debt issues and a coming break up of states to deal with. In short, a war for state independence. Forming a coalition with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordon and Pakistan is best for the short term. Once the Shiite threat is eliminated, the old conflicts between Sunni and Israel can continue.
But it seems we no longer want to learn anything from history. Very sad. For if you don't know the past, you can't understand the present — let alone the implications of present decisions for the future that evolves therefrom.
That is a conservative presupposition that transformative, left progressive ideologues wholly reject. Such folks have no "history" that reaches further back than their breakfast....
But that sort of thing, to my mind, is a total flight from Reality.
I very much relished reading Oren's Ally. It is extraordinarily informative. I will very likely read his Power, Faith, and Fantasy in consequence.
Oren is a centrist, too (Kulanu party), not what Israelis would call right-wing. But with seasoned historical judgment he sees through the Obama crowd and their anti-Israel point of view, and he recognizes the existential threat.
I'd say Oren is a little bit to the left of "centrist." Still, his Kulanu party won 10 seats in the last election (including Oren's seat), the very election that returned Benjamin Netayahu to power.
Oren is a New Jersey-born Reformed Jew, thus is a natural-born American citizen, who happens to be of Reformed Jewish persuasion. Bibi (and most of the Likud party) are Orthodox. There are "liberal" parties in Israel that look a lot like our "liberals" in the U.S.A. But there are also parties even further to the "right." As Prime Minister, Netanyahu has to unite them all in order to have a functioning government. The point is, not only the current majority party of Israel, but it seems without exception, all the minority parties that won representation in the Knesset in the last election, shucked their partisan differences on Israeli national security issues, and have aligned with Bibi.
They know an "existential threat" to Israel when they see it. And as "unlovable" as Bibi is regarded in certain domestic quarters, it seems that all of political Israel is uniting under his foreign policy leadership.
That should tell us something....
Thank you so very much for writing, Genoa!
P.S.: I really need a copy editor, to rid me of redundancies....
Bibi is not Orthodox, but traditional and not all that observant. The Likud is not a religious party
Thanks for the correction, rmlew. Still, from my sense of the book, I wouldn't conclude that Likud is a "religious party."
As to what Bibi is, I imagine that is between him and G*d.
But I happen to hold him in the highest esteem and respect.
The difference between Tom Paine and Edmund Burke, between a radical and a whig, was that Paine had no sense of history. His views were rooted in his own experience, in his self-education and Paine rejected everything that came before that.
Excellent observation, RobbyS!
Though he wrote Common Sense, thereby helping to inspire the American Revolution, his attitude and sentiments seem to have been more aligned with the French one. And we all know how that turned out.
Edmund Burke was a conservative in every sense of the word. Thus the historical record was of indispensable value to him, along with the notion that there is such a thing as a more or less constant, fixed "human nature" that does not vary over time. I'm pretty sure Paine rejected that latter notion.
This is the most treasonous and appalling statement ever said by a 'CIC'. I pray there are still those Constitutionalists patriots serving who take note of it.
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