Posted on 07/22/2015 7:03:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Why did the cop have to ask her to stop smoking?
Is there a law in Texas against smoking in your Own car?
My guess is that they jailed her and she had no one to bail her out? So she sat there for 3 days. Its wrong. I agree, but suicide is not something that mentally healthy people commit.
I question if her death WAS suicide.
NUTJOB MOTORIST and AUTHORITARIAN COP do’t come off too well
There, fixed it even further.
RE: My guess is that they jailed her and she had no one to bail her out? So she sat there for 3 days. Its wrong.
EXCESSIVE FROM THE LOOKS OF IT.
At most, a few hours would have sufficed plus a fine.
The cop has lots to answer for even if not for the death of the woman.
Also want to add to that, I believe I heard early on in the exchange that she may have been from out of state? She may have been in jail waiting on someone to get her out.
Her car was probably impounded as well.
It looks bad from all angles and I am not defending the officer at ALL.
Yeah, I can buy that.
You take two egotistic jerkwads and force them into a bad situation...
Bad things happen.
We can’t see in the video..she may have been blowing smoke in his face. He would have done better at that point to call in for back up. It was all down hill from there.
The "law" that was broken here was this one: Do not talk back to a bad cop. Do not show any sign of disrespect to a bad cop. Obey all nonsensical orders given by a bad cop.
Yep, I know it's better to be polite when talking to a cop, or to anyone for that matter. But the Constitution says you shouldn't have to.
Here's how it works: Cop sees driver, thinks, "Well, there's a scumbag with facial hair and tattoos (or black woman, mexican male that might have drugs, etc.). Guess I better find a reason to pull them over, run their #'s and see if I can catch me a felon." Cop then proceeds to watch for the slightest infraction that would be considered "cause" to pull said driver over. The rest is history.
So are hands. Does that mean everyone has to be cuffed as soon as a cop walks up?
I think he was preparing to ask her to get out of the car because of the escalating situation. Because of that he asked her to put out her cigarette to prevent being burned.
I didn’t hear him read to her the Miranda Rights.
That's a good point. But I still can't see a good reason for asking her to get out of the car in the first place.
Yep. No doubt about it. But this situation did NOT have to escalate. What’s the purpose of telling her to put out her cigarette after already finishing up the warning ticket? Just hand her the darn thing and walk away. No harm done.
From what I recall, the cop observed that she seemed irritated, to which she told him that she switched lanes for him. Then he started the cigarette thing. You call that defiance? Is being irritated an addressable offence?
RE: I didn’t hear him read to her the Miranda Rights.
Well, if that is a right for traffic violations, I need to sue the cop for stopping me and not reading me my Miranda for allegedly failing to stop at a STOP sign.
RE: Then he started the cigarette thing.
Does he have the right to tell a smoker to stop smoking in her car?
Is there a law against it? If so, why did he not cite it?
So charge the cop with a crime or STFU.
Good luck. LOL
The stop for I
Legal lane change, following too close, etc. are reasons used to stop motorists so the authorities can check for illegal drugs. If the person stopped acts irrational or defensive then it can easily escalate. This is not endorsing the practice but realizing it happens. There is always way more to the story than what we get from these snippits.
It is a little tough. But, I guess if there is a verbally combative person, acting hostile and a little out of control, as she was, there could be a reason for concern, like drugs, weapons, that could cause an escalating situation.
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